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Old 04-27-2016, 08:05 PM   #41
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After all the discussion about leaks, yesterday I checked all the caulking on our May 2015 Escape 21. Even though the thin layer of clear sealant around the windows, doors and lights looked fine, I ran my finger along it and gently pulled back on the edge every inch or so. I found no areas where it pulled free, including around the three top lights at the back that some people reported warping on.

Then I got on a ladder and checked the roof. I previously didnít notice that the sealant on the roof was different from the rubbery, self leveling stuff that was on our stick built trailer with the rubber roof. Instead it was hard and plastic-like. I had a concern with its application to the fridge vent, because there are a few places where the sealant doesnít fill the gap between the vent and the roof. It could be that it is well sealed, despite the gap, but because the gap is very deep I canít tell for sure and would like to cover it better.

I looked at the air conditioner and couldnít see any sealant around it, but I was looking at it from a distance on the stepladder, so I wasnít sure.

I decided to call ETI for advice on what the sealants were and especially the roof stuff so I can completely cover the gaps.

Today I heard from Tammy, who went out to the shop to get answers to my questions about caulking. I also asked her about some of the concerns expressed here on what happens to the vinyl and insulation when there is a leak, as well as other potential damage. Her responses were:

What is the roof sealant?
Tammy said it was Sikaflex, but I didnít record which product exactly. I thought she said it was one of their marine products, but which one?

She said I could cover the gaps after cleaning the current caulking with paint thinner.

Is there any sealant on the air conditioner to check?
Tammy said there was a gasket plus some silicone as a back up. She said this did not need to be checked.

I asked about the advice I got from Adventure RV (Repairs) to pull back on every inch of caulking rather than rely on a visual inspection. She seemed to agree that this was a good thing.

What happens if water gets past the caulking? Does the water cause the insulation and vinyl to release? What other damage can you expect?
Tammy said that the water would not cause the insulation or vinyl t o release. She also said that the foam is closed cell (not open cell), and so would not absorb the moisture. They also use marine grade plywood, plus the drain ports to funnel water away.

Tammy suggested that maybe Reace could post on this thread to address some of the concerns about the consequences of leak damage. What great folk these people are.

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Old 04-27-2016, 08:08 PM   #42
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Solid information beats speculation every time.
Thanks Bob.
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Good info Bob. Thanks
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"Tammy said that the foam is closed cell (not open cell), and so would not absorb the moisture."

Good to clear that speculation up, thanks for sharing here
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"Tammy said that the foam is closed cell (not open cell), and so would not absorb the moisture."

Good to clear that speculation up, thanks for sharing here
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Old 04-28-2016, 08:17 AM   #46
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Is there anyway to attach any thing to the walls? Do people use rivets?
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Old 04-28-2016, 08:27 AM   #47
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Is there anyway to attach any thing to the walls? Do people use rivets?
Bite your tongue gal!

There aren't any thru rivets on an Escape... unlike that other brand of trailer I own.

Folks have found lots of flat places on the cabinetry to hang all kinds of things. What specifically are you looking to attach?
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Old 04-28-2016, 08:32 AM   #48
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I have a magazine rack, frame photo that I hang in the carpeting on my Casita walls. Maybe a spice rack, some additional hooks.
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Old 04-28-2016, 08:41 AM   #49
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The best way to attach something to the shell, is to cut out a small piece of the vinyl liner down to the fibreglass shell, clean that off, and epoxy 1/2" plywood blocks to the shell. You can then use screws to firmly attach whatever you want, which hopefully covers the block you epoxied in.

Most folks just attach items to the interior walls though.
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Every mod should be reversible. You can find many ways to secure spice racks, hooks, etc to the inside walls but cutting or drilling through the vinyl for any purpose would quickly become your biggest regret. Don't even think about it.


I should not worry about water leakage around the air conditioner. A thick wide gasket rims the underside and you apply a sealant all around the rough roof opening then drop the unit down, and it clamps tight to the roof with a screwed in frame inside.
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