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Old 12-07-2014, 01:58 PM   #11
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I wouldn't call a Bigfoot double-wall, because that suggests that there are inner and outer moulded fiberglass shells... and it doesn't have that. Instead, from what I've seen it has a single moulded fiberglass outer shell just like an Escape, but thick foam plus framing and interior panels on the inside rather than Escape's thinner lining material; this allows the Bigfoot to have substantially more insulation. The rigid foam (I think it's polystyrene beadboard) requires the flat wall surfaces of the 1500 and 2500 series Bigfoot shells.

Almost all fiberglass travel trailers use interior cabinetry for support to some extent (including Escape), but Bigfoot has gone as far as bridging across the ceiling with plywood, supported by the wood framing of cabinets. I've read about some people with substantial problems in all this wood (such as rotting due to a roof vent leak), and I would rather not have it.
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Old 12-07-2014, 02:18 PM   #12
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Winter Towing. While I have as much experience driving in the snow as anyone, I've never towed in it, nor have I driven the Rockies in Nov. Does towing a trailer, in my case the 5th wheel, require any special precautions?
If the trailer has less traction than the tug, you risk it swinging around behind you... or trying to pass you. This is true whether it is conventional or fifth-wheel, although a fifth-wheel should jerk the tug around less (a leverage difference). If I were to tow in winter very much, I would run winter tires on the trailer (there are all-weather tires which are decent winters and can be left on year-round), but for a one-time thing I would keep the trailer brake setting low and be careful. The reason for the brake setting is that if the trailer tires skid due to inadequate traction for the braking effort, they will lose lateral traction as well and thus you have no control... so avoiding trailer tire skidding is important.

Rocky Mountain highways in November can be anything from bare pavement, to drifting snow on an ice base with no lanes visible, to an ice sheet due to freezing rain... depending on the day. I suggest maintaining schedule flexibility, to avoid feeling trapped into risky driving decisions.
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Old 12-07-2014, 02:58 PM   #13
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Thanks Brian, we now have no hard schedule, wife is due to retire just before the trip in question. After thinking about it we decided we'd just take a southern route to the east coast and northward from there, should the need arise. Heck, we haven't camped in Texas yet.
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:43 PM   #14
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Thanks for welcome and info about insulation

Hi Bob, Jim, and Jim-B,

Thanks for the welcome, Sonya and I both appreciate it.

Good points about the tradeoffs between cost of a heavier trailer with more insulation vs needing a bigger truck and burning more gas to stay warm.

We've seen one used 2003 Bigfoot 25RQ and a new 21ft Escape. I really like the workmanship, lighter weight, and smaller footprint of the Escape, but we "swore" we were not going to get another non-walk-around bed. We like the rear, separate bedroom of the the Bigfoot.

A new Bigfoot RQ came into a dealership in Phoenix a few days ago (pre-ordered) and we are going to go look at that tomorrow. Do any of you know of someone with an Escape 5.0TA in either the Yuma or Phoenix area; we'd really like to take a look at one of those as well.

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Old 12-08-2014, 02:47 PM   #15
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Contact Escape Trailers and they will put you in touch with someone that is willing to show their unit.
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Old 12-08-2014, 02:54 PM   #16
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Hi Jim,

Did that already, but haven't heard back yet. If I don't hear today or tomorrow, I'll contact again.

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As others have pointed out, the 'double wall' insulation/plywood, etc come at a cost, mostly WEIGHT. Comparing the 21ft Escape to the 21 ft Bigfoot, there's an average dry weight difference of over 1400 pounds. That's quite a bit.
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Yes and considering you have to carry that 1400 lbs all the time, it gets really heavy after awhile.
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Hi Jim,

Did that already, but haven't heard back yet. If I don't hear today or tomorrow, I'll contact again.

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The owner's map doesn't show any thing close to Yuma, Az
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Old 12-08-2014, 03:04 PM   #20
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Bummer. There is still a chance that snowbirds might be heading this way; don't know if Escape has a way of knowing that. I'll keep my eyes open; Sonya and I have been talking about just dropping by some of the many RV parks in our area and just looking around. That's how we ran into the new 21 footer in Los Angeles last week.

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