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Old 04-16-2016, 07:30 AM   #31
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It was tuff working through the small access holes in the LP caompartment, so I removed the upper cabnet's side walls. I also slid the wiring for the curb side so the junction at the motor was easier to reach when working through the access ports. I also replaced the crimp on disconnects with wire nuts.

Atwood has an available remote control which is wireless. I looked it over really close until I was able to price it. $500.00 ouch. It used reversing switches and controled both motors independantly. Independant motor operation is what makes the system flexible, you can level front to back and side to side. Being careful not to put more weight on one jack. The frame is strong enough to let one jack pick the trailer and the other jack.
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Old 04-16-2016, 02:48 PM   #32
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With my rememberer slowly going away with age . I'd probably end up leaving the switch and connector at home
An interesting point, and one that comes up each time that the detachable power cord option is mentioned. On the other hand, and unlike the power cord, these switches are needed to hook up, so one would likely just tuck the box and cable away in the trailer (or truck) after hooking up. Why would one unplug this from the trailer, go the garage or whatever, and put it anywhere but in the trailer or truck? A risk, but doesn't seem like a big one.

This does bring up another question for me: couldn't one make the same setup, but skip the connector and instead just hardwire the cable? If the cable comes out of the outside wall of the trailer a connector is needed, but if coming out of an interior wall of a compartment like Barry's, it could be just rolled up and stowed in that compartment while staying permanently attached.
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Or do the switches inside the hatch still operate?
I believe that Barry used the stock switches from inside and relocated them to his box on the end of the cable... so no. Those switches are only ten bucks apiece (U.S.), so as I suggested earlier one could leave the fixed switches in and add the remote ones... but don't push both in different directions at the same time!

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Atwood has an available remote control which is wireless. I looked it over really close until I was able to price it. $500.00 ouch. It used reversing switches and controled both motors independantly. Independant motor operation is what makes the system flexible, you can level front to back and side to side. Being careful not to put more weight on one jack. The frame is strong enough to let one jack pick the trailer and the other jack.
Interesting. I assume this is Atwood's 85476, two-jack remote control. The only online listing I found was US$335.92 (but a shipping cost to Edmonton of US$429.42!).

They also have a four-jack system - 80436 (available at Amazon.com). This is a four-jack system, so one could add motors to the C-Jacks on the back and use it to extend those stabilizers as well (not to adjust level).

I don't really want another remote in my life, and don't trust remotes to absolutely always work. Unfortunately, judging from the installation&operation manual for the 4-jack system, there is no provision for hardwired switches (they would risk the problem I mentioned earlier), so if the remote system fails the only backup is hand-cranking, as Donna mentioned.
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So if you were to retain the stock switch in the same place and add a remote/cable, how would it be wired? Would you connect the cable to the back of the existing switch (existing uses m/f quick-connect) or slice into the wires? or?
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In case of relay failure, the stock switches could be retained and the relays wired in parallel with them... as long as you never push any of the original switches at the same time that you are using the relays (that has short-circuit possibilities )
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So if you were to retain the stock switch in the same place and add a remote/cable, how would it be wired? Would you connect the cable to the back of the existing switch (existing uses m/f quick-connect) or slice into the wires? or?
I might be inclined to use a terminal block to do the splicing, wiring the circuits in parallel. I would also be tempted to us a DPDT switch for the positive and negative feeds, to switch between the two sets of controls, isolating one set while the other set is energized. This would eliminate any short-circuit possibilities on the rare chance that somehow both getting operated at the same time.
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Old 04-16-2016, 06:18 PM   #36
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If you were wanting to use a smaller box for the controls, you could use these wiring harnesses fro JR Products, along with their motor controls. You would still have to splice them in the box, but they would not stick out as far as your typical spade connector would.

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I might be inclined to use a terminal block to do the splicing, wiring the circuits in parallel. I would also be tempted to us a DPDT switch for the positive and negative feeds, to switch between the two sets of controls, isolating one set while the other set is energized. This would eliminate any short-circuit possibilities on the rare chance that somehow both getting operated at the same time.
Good idea - no need to switch all of the outputs, just the power to the switches.
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I must have freakishly long arms. Until I saw this thread, I never gave it a thought on the difficulty of seeing the landing gear. Peace, Apeman Scott

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I must have freakishly long arms. Until I saw this thread, I never gave it a thought on the difficulty of seeing the landing gear. Peace, Apeman Scott
Boy, did that comment give me a huge laugh. I have short arms and my son refers to me as "Mom with her T-Rex arms" and then gives a T-Rex squeal.
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I must have freakishly long arms. Until I saw this thread, I never gave it a thought on the difficulty of seeing the landing gear. Peace, Apeman Scott

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Go sit with those party pooper women, and leave us men folk to build things bigger and better things .

Well, at least do some theoretical thinking.
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