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Old 08-06-2019, 09:58 AM   #1
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not happy with refrig cooling. I removed the system monitoring panel above the refrigerator and noticed daylight behind it. there is an open gap at back where hot air from outside tubes can enter space above refrigerator and warm inside living space. is this by design? I've contacted Escape but haven't heard back yet. 20190805_123316.jpg
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Old 08-06-2019, 10:14 AM   #2
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not happy with refrig cooling. I removed the system monitoring panel above the refrigerator and noticed daylight behind it. there is an open gap at back where hot air from outside tubes can enter space above refrigerator and warm inside living space. is this by design? I've contacted Escape but haven't heard back yet. Attachment 40878
Ideally there should be no way for warm air from the rear to get around the top or sides of the fridge. You don't want the convective current disturbed and you want the hot air going out the top vent. We have a 2010 with side venting but I had to do some work to fill the gaps with insulation. Also you might want to check your propane pressure at the refrigerator test port with a manometer. Low pressure was the biggest contributing factor to our poor refrigerator performance in hot weather. You should have about 11" w.c. with 50% of trailer BTU's in use. This will result in about 12" w.c. with no load. The regulator up at the front tanks are adjustable. Don't be fooled by other appliances working fine. They are not as sensitive to low propane pressure as the refrigerator.
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Ideally there should be no way for warm air from the rear to get around the top or sides of the fridge. You don't want the convective current disturbed and you want the hot air going out the top vent. We have a 2010 with side venting but I had to do some work to fill the gaps with insulation. Also you might want to check your propane pressure at the refrigerator test port with a manometer. Low pressure was the biggest contributing factor to our poor refrigerator performance in hot weather. You should have about 11" w.c. with 50% of trailer BTU's in use. This will result in about 12" w.c. with no load. The regulator up at the front tanks are adjustable. Don't be fooled by other appliances working fine. They are not as sensitive to low propane pressure as the refrigerator.
I sealed my fridge compartment all the way up to the roof vent such that it is airtight and watertight. Fridge works better now and compartment stays clean. The open face fiberglass that was in there collected dirt and wasn't as smooth to air flow.

The insulation was added such that the fridge just slipped in and I added rubber seals all along the back edge of the fridge sealing it to the reflectix to prevent any air leakage.

Just a suggestion...
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there are things that I could have someone do, but I would think escape would do those things when building it. There always a chance of installer error or forgetfulness but are we as customers of a new unit responsible for them?
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I sealed my fridge compartment all the way up to the roof vent such that it is airtight and watertight. Fridge works better now and compartment stays clean. The open face fiberglass that was in there collected dirt and wasn't as smooth to air flow.

The insulation was added such that the fridge just slipped in and I added rubber seals all along the back edge of the fridge sealing it to the reflectix to prevent any air leakage.

Just a suggestion...
Wow. Nice work. Escape has gotten better but there is still room for improvement on their fridge installations.
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Wow. Nice work. Escape has gotten better but there is still room for improvement on their fridge installations.

My rule of thumb is that unsealed wood should never be exposed to moist air. Wet wood is a good place for mold to get started.

By completely sealing the fridge cavity, hot/cold air doesn't leak into/out of the trailer, the fridge works better, and no mold.
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there are things that I could have someone do, but I would think escape would do those things when building it. There always a chance of installer error or forgetfulness but are we as customers of a new unit responsible for them?
Think I'd check the Dometic installation specs for the fridge, if ETI did not meet the specs then they should be held responsible. If they were met then it'd be on Dometics. Many of us find these things easier to do by ourselves, as well as ending up with a better finished job.
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It appears it was sealed and perhaps the seal broke, I'd just reseal it from the rear. There will be items as you use the trailer that may separate, your are pulling your house down a bumpy road. Proflex is great on the exterior and caulk maybe used inside to seal any openings that may appear.
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as far as I can tell, the refrigerator has to be pulled out to access the area. Maybe could be reached from top. What ever way, I'm not going to be the one to pull refrigerator or go up on roof. I have some limitations on what I can do. If the area is supposed to be sealed, they didn't do a good job.
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there are things that I could have someone do, but I would think escape would do those things when building it. There always a chance of installer error or forgetfulness but are we as customers of a new unit responsible for them?
No trailer builder is going to do the type of installation that I did on my trailer - they can't afford to spend that much time and material on it and stay in business.

It's my trailer so I spent the extra effort to get it better than it had to be. It's as close to perfect as I know how to get it and that's what I wanted.

Like the saying goes - if you want it done right, do it yourself.

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as far as I can tell, the refrigerator has to be pulled out to access the area. Maybe could be reached from top. What ever way, I'm not going to be the one to pull refrigerator or go up on roof. I have some limitations on what I can do. If the area is supposed to be sealed, they didn't do a good job.
Pulling the fridge is a 30 minute job. No big deal. To reach the area that is separated, that is about the only way to get to the back of that enclosure.

While you're in there, it gives you a chance to seal the exposed wood or cover it like I did. Once you pull the fridge, you'll see what I talking about. Below is a pic of what mine looked like before I redid it.
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