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07-13-2014, 01:10 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Reno, Nevada
Trailer: 2014 19
Posts: 11
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Alternative to storage box for 19
Hi folks
Has anyone used a truck storage box as an alternative to the standard storage box on the 19?
Also, looks like the standard box is a little wider than the nose of the 19? (looks like it matches width of 21)
Thank you.
- Warp171
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07-13-2014, 01:43 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2012 15A
Posts: 398
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Truck storage box may be heavier and larger than the ETI fiberglass box? Need to watch the tongue weight. Also need to consider where the dual 20 lb propane tanks would go - inside the truck box?
Some owners have made their own front storage box to fit between trailer and propane tanks. 'Ron in BC' and 'Myron' have posted photos of the boxes they fabricated.
Not sure where the battery is placed on a 19 if you do not have the box. With box I think it goes inside the box? It may now go on the tongue behind the propane tanks? The location has changed over the years as I understand.
I believe ETI uses the same size box on all the trailers?
Box width on our 15A trailer is 74.5 inches. Someone with a 19' could comment on the width of their box for comparison.
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07-13-2014, 02:38 PM
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#3
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Reno, Nevada
Trailer: 2014 19
Posts: 11
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Thank you JohnB
Good point ref. tongue weight, I guess this is balanced by how summary "onboard weight" is distributed to counter.
- Warp171
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07-13-2014, 02:44 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,744
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Warp171
Hi folks
Also, looks like the standard box is a little wider than the nose of the 19? (looks like it matches width of 21)
Thank you.
- Warp171
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That was one of the motivations for me fabricating my own box. That and I'm a hopeless DIY'er and maybe cheap also
Ron
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07-13-2014, 02:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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I don't think a typical truck box is very well shaped or proportioned for use on the front on an Escape, but many people have built or bought storage boxes for this purpose, on all brands of trailers. If you do a Google image search for "trailer tongue box" you'll see lots of examples.
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07-13-2014, 03:00 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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Single-axle Escapes (13' 15', 17', original 5.0) are the classic 80" width,
the Escape 19' is 4" wider (84"), and
the Escape 21' and Escape 5.0TA are another 4" wider (88").
I would be interested in the ETI box widths, too.
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07-15-2014, 01:48 AM
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#7
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Reno, Nevada
Trailer: 2014 19
Posts: 11
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Thanks guys, great input and appreciate the dimensions. Have been considering the truck-type storage box option, there seem to be many products of various sizes on the market. Potential Cons so far:
- Will need to contrast as unlikely to match
- Not yet clear on fixing options
- less costly than ETI option, but can still be pricey (a little cheap myself
Potential Pros:
- Choice of sizes and finished including white (though I quite fancy the diamond-plate Aluminum myself for the "expedition" look)
- Most lockable and very secure
- Less costly (that's me )
Will keep you posted.
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07-15-2014, 11:16 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
Posts: 14,935
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For a rectangular truck box, I would add the risk of reducing turning clearance (possibly relevant only when backing up at extreme angles) between the box corners and the tug.
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07-15-2014, 11:41 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Reno, Nevada
Trailer: 2014 19
Posts: 11
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great point, hadn't thought about that... I guess level of risk would be based upon the width of the truck box inquestion. BTW I notice one or two of the manufacturers also make a tongue box spefically for this purpose (will post link later). Downside being much reduced volume.
- Warp171
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07-15-2014, 07:33 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Cottonwood Heights, Utah
Trailer: Escape 17B
Posts: 11
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Per Kim at ETI, the box on my 17B (pick it up in 2 weeks) is 12”w x 16”d (at the least) x 41” (narrowest point) - 47” (longest point).
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07-15-2014, 07:40 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottJUtah
Per Kim at ETI, the box on my 17B (pick it up in 2 weeks) is 12”w x 16”d (at the least) x 41” (narrowest point) - 47” (longest point).
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That doesn't make sense based on the photos I've seen. The box extends all the way to the corners of the front of the trailer in the photos, completely covering up the vinyl protective corner covers. That'd make it about 8 feet across -- not less than 4 feet as these numbers suggest.
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07-15-2014, 07:51 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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I just measured my box cover, it is 80" along the widest part, the rear and 48" along the narrowest part, the front closest to the propane tanks, I have a 21', not sure if that changes anything.
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07-15-2014, 08:44 PM
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#13
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Cottonwood Heights, Utah
Trailer: Escape 17B
Posts: 11
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Don't have the 17B yet so can't verify, and I hastily copied and pasted from ETI's email, but a little common sense on my part would have caught the discrepancy! The 17 is 80" wide and the box seems to pretty much cover the front profile, so must have been a typo (77" perhaps?). Come to think of it, the other dimensions seem a little small as well, after looking at my latest build photos. Maybe Kim was quoting minimums, as all of the dimensions taper or otherwise vary across their distances.
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07-15-2014, 08:55 PM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 - "Felicity"
Posts: 2,945
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
I just measured my box cover, it is 80" along the widest part, the rear and 48" along the narrowest part, the front closest to the propane tanks, I have a 21', not sure if that changes anything.
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Jim, what's the inside vertical dimension on the 21 box? Curious if our chairs will fit in there.
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07-15-2014, 08:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
Posts: 26,268
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it is 10 pm and dark here now, can it wait until tomorrow?
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Jim
Sometime life gets in the way of living.......
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07-15-2014, 08:58 PM
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Commercial Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Trailer: 2014 Escape 21 - "Felicity"
Posts: 2,945
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
it is 10 pm and dark here now, can it wait until tomorrow?
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Whenever convenient. Won't care until the end of August!
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Charlie Y
Need custom storage to your design? Don't drill holes!
www.RVWidgetWorks.com
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07-15-2014, 09:15 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: North Van., British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 Escape 19, sold; 2019 Escape 21, Sept. 2019
Posts: 8,744
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottJUtah
The 17 is 80" wide and the box seems to pretty much cover the front profile, so must have been a typo (77" perhaps?).
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There is another aspect if aesthetics are considered. The front of the trailer has very rounded corners. If the box width exceeds the point where the front starts to curve it looks like the box is "too big" for the front of the trailer.
That's why mine is 58" wide at the bottom rear. The top is smaller because the front of the trailer slopes outward and the rear of my box follows the contour of the trailer wall. (max. volume)
Anyway this is a 58" wide box for comparison.
Ron
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07-15-2014, 10:23 PM
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#18
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Longview, WA, Washington
Trailer: 2013 Escape 15B - 2014 Nissan Frontier SL
Posts: 854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
I just measured my box cover, it is 80" along the widest part, the rear and 48" along the narrowest part, the front closest to the propane tanks, I have a 21', not sure if that changes anything.
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On our 15 with the lid open it is 74 long at the back, 43 long at the front, 12 wide and 21 deep at the outside edges. I think theeasurements would be the same on a 17 but don't know about the bigger, wider units.
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2013 Escape 15B
2014 Nissan Frontier, Previous 2012 Santa Fe
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07-15-2014, 11:12 PM
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#19
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Site Team
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Canyon Lake, Texas
Trailer: 2015 19 "Past Tents", 2021 F150 Lariat 2.7L EB
Posts: 10,222
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I think the box from ETI is the same for all models. At least, judging from the photos. You can tell that the 21 sticks out a little bit from the box on both sides, because it's a wider trailer. on the 17 and 15, it doesn't.
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