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Old 03-06-2014, 06:30 PM   #21
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I know that my recent weight questions helped spawn this thread and I appreciate the discourse. I have needed reassurance that my FJ TV will be able to adequately handle my 19 on order. I can still make changes to my build sheet and my FJ (air lift bags) to keep them safe on the road. Thanks everyone!!
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Old 03-06-2014, 06:52 PM   #22
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Actually the OP had nothing to do with your weight question. Not very often a thread stays on the original track, keeps them from getting boring.
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Old 03-06-2014, 06:58 PM   #23
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Kris,
Before getting the air bags, I'd try the Andersen, I'm going to bring BlackJack with my FJ with my Andersen to the rally in September. There is an FJ forum and the install is a little complex for the FJ and air bags. First I'd try the Andersen. See you...
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:07 PM   #24
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Over on FGRV Derek installed air bags on his RAV to tow his Parkliner. Then he got a weight distribution hitch.
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Yes I know but the FJ and Rav are 2 different vehicles.
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:23 PM   #26
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Agreed. So you are suggesting that air bags may do the trick? I thought you were recommending the Anderson WDH.
I think the critical issue is that a WDH transfers weight to the front wheels of the tow and to the trailer axle. All the air bags do is make it harder to compress the suspension. Is that not true?
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:50 PM   #27
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The Anderson WDH is on the build list. From what I've read on the FJ forum the air bag install is not terribly difficult, just a little tricky.
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Old 03-06-2014, 07:58 PM   #28
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I'm planning to hit the scale on my way home with our new 21 in a couple weeks... I'll get the delivered weight - all options, full propane and no water - before we start loading her up with our stuff.
Excellent!

Make sure that's including the tongue weight, and without a WD hitch system engaged, so the true weight of the trailer is known.
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Old 03-06-2014, 08:21 PM   #29
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The reason I mention water Brian is that people need to realize a full tank of water needs to be calculated into their trailer weight if they are concerned with their capacity. I would not like to see someone purchase a unit that wold exceed their capacity just by filling up the fresh tank.
I agree, this is important for people to realize. It's just that a moderately intelligent person should realize that the dry weight doesn't include that water. We do all need reminders sometimes of things which should be obvious.

The Cargo Carrying Capacity listed on the placard in new RVs (including Escapes) assumes that the freshwater tank and water heater are full of water, and that the waste tanks are empty, so that people don't overload by forgetting about the water. If you carry full freshwater, full propane, and the full cargo carrying capacity, the trailer will be at its Gross Vehicle Weight Rating, which is also available in the specs (in addition to the base dry weight).
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I think the critical issue is that a WDH transfers weight to the front wheels of the tow and to the trailer axle. All the air bags do is make it harder to compress the suspension. Is that not true?
True. If your only issue is suspension ride height or spring stiffness, then air bags are a full solution. On the other hand, if your issue is excessive rear axle load (or you think you don't have enough front axle load), the air bags won't change that and you need a weight-distribution system.

I'm not sure what this has to do with Escape options...
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