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Old 09-01-2015, 10:58 PM   #31
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Are you certain that's a high pressure connection? I thought ETI only did low pressure.
The optional quick-connect is low pressure.

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I believe that means to shut off the gas supply at the QC, not at the tank. There is a valve there.
I agree that is likely what is to be shut off. Usually, the way these are constructed you can't pull the collar to connect or disconnect the hose unless the valve handle is turned to the "off" position, so it is idiot-resistant (nothing is idiot-proof )
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Old 09-01-2015, 11:02 PM   #32
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Brian, so if we were willing to pay the $ (and that would depend on how much $ we're talking about), could we have a pro install a T that'd be closer in line with where Reace would have put the connect in, which if I'm right is by the door? Or at this point would we have to T off the front?
I don't see any problem adding a tee fitting to the existing low-pressure plumbing anywhere desired; however it would be easiest where there is already some sort of fitting, and fittings should generally be outside the bodyshell rather than inside. At the front is just the most accessible place, but there's otherwise nothing special about the front.

Although it is common in RVs to run propane lines under the trailer as iron pipe (with pipe-thread joints), and transition to bendable copper tubing and flare joints only to go up into the trailer to each appliance, I believe all Escapes use entirely copper tubing (other than the rubber hoses). If this is correct, the use of copper tubing means that anyone adding to the system needs to work with flare fittings, which means flaring the end of each tube used. Flaring tubing is something that many owners might not be willing to try, and an average plumber doesn't do, but for a gasfitter (a person qualified to provide professional natural gas and propane plumbing services) that should not be an issue at all.

I hope anyone working with services under the trailer such as propane doesn't have the sprayed-on foam insulation - that could be messy to dig into if it covers propane tubing... but the foam is only between the frame rails, so perhaps it's exposed?
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Old 09-01-2015, 11:29 PM   #33
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That page explains that there are high-pressure (at the tank) and low-pressure (after the regulator) options. Both are shown, and in these examples both have quick-connect connections. While the two types of quick-connect look similar, they are not the same, or compatible.

The low-pressure quick-connect hardware is easy to find here. I've never seen the high-pressure quick-connects, and I don't see much point in them since the screw-on connection (like the connection on the end of a one-pound disposable propane cylinder) is so quick and easy to connect and disconnect by hand. Most high-pressure tees use the screw-on connection, not the quick-connect.
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Old 09-02-2015, 02:34 AM   #34
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Ok I get confused about all this high low pressure stuff. My campfire in a can came with a hose I attach it to my 10 pound tank and it works great. I wanted to use my weber with the 10pound tank instead of the little disposable tanks so I bought a hose from weber made for my little grill to use to attach it to the tank but I cannot get it to work. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong?
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Possibly. If you open the tank valve too quickly, it can cause the the safety shut off in the tank to deploy, so no gas escapes. I'd shut off the tank, open the Q control to allow any gas in the hose etc. to escape, shut the Q off and then open the tank valve slowly, and try again to light it.
I've got a couple of those hose/adapters and have used them on several different grills, including my Weber, without a problem, so I hope that fixes it.
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Old 09-02-2015, 02:47 AM   #36
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Thanks I will try it again
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You could also try swapping hoses. The campfire hose should work with the Weber and vice versa. I have no idea what brand my hoses are, or even where and when I bought them.
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Good idea!
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Old 09-02-2015, 10:17 AM   #39
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Converted Que 1000 to low pressure propane

This is probably as good a place to tell this tale as any. We got the Weber Que 1000 shortly after we got our first trailer, and while we really like the grill, we didn't care for the 1 lb disposable propane canisters. We were in camping world and saw a 5 lb propane tank and a hose that screwed into the regulator so we got that. But that was late Sept, we were near home, and so we didn't use the set up for about 5 months. When we tried it out, the grill lit just fine, but went out after a few minutes. In order to salvage dinner, I connected the grill to one of the 20 lb propane tanks on the trailer.

This problem was persistent, and some one suggested getting a different hose that had a black attachment for the propane tank. Apparently there are different kinds of propane hoses, which can be distinguished by the color of the attachment at the tank end. Anyhow, that hose worked once or twice but was not reliable. The grill would start, but then go out in a few minutes and resist re-lighting.

My friend Google showed me that this was a fairly common problem, and eventually I came across a post from a good ol boy who explained that there is a device in the tank that senses a sudden loss of pressure in the hose, assumes that there is a leak and shuts off the propane. That is why it is important that you turn the valve on slowly. But in many cases, it doesn't make any difference how slowly you turn on the valve at the tank.

The solution was to buy a hose that had the regulator at the end near the tank. So I got this hose and this fitting along with some PTFE tape. I removed the regulator from the grill and replaced it with the flare fitting. I gave the two hoses away at the swap meet in Osoyoos. The new set up has worked just fine.

If I had to do it over again, I might do something like Karen has done with her trailer and end up with a long hose. But on the other hand, my little propane tank is convenient, and it is easy to carry it to where ever I want to set up the grill.
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I have found on my home propane barbeque grill that I must turn on the tank valve then wait until I hear a small noise from the tank. That "swooshy" noise is the valve in the tank deciding that there is no big leak and getting ready to allow propane out. If I turn the grill on before the noise, then the grill will not stay lit.

On my trailer, I turn the tank valves on then go off to light something and the time delay is long enough that this hasn't been a problem for me.
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