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Old 10-14-2013, 05:24 PM   #1
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before the construction...

... there's a certain amount of deconstruction.

Got the winterizing done this weekend, along with a bunch of prep for projects I have planned for the winter.

The bed is taken completely apart (mattress and platform removed). I did this originally to make fixing the city water check valve easier, but it's still in this condition in order to give access to the power cord. We'll be implementing Techfan's (Tim's) storage bag for the power cord (Latest Mods).

The under-bed cabinet doors are removed, in preparation for building drawers.

And I removed the range hood, in preparation for a shelf for storing coffee cups and other commonly used kitchen items. (Anybody want a barely-used range hood?)

One other planned project, not requiring any deconstruction: install a music system over the dinette.

Still lots of design work to do on these things. One big drawer or two smaller ones? How will I leave access to the water pump once the drawers are in? That sort of thing.

Lots of fun winter projects.
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Old 10-14-2013, 05:32 PM   #2
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If you put in one large wide drawer, I think accessing the stuff would make a long stretch, kinda awkward. I like Bret's solution: 19' Under-bed storage
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:58 PM   #3
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Still lots of design work to do on these things. One big drawer or two smaller ones? How will I leave access to the water pump once the drawers are in? That sort of thing.
I am facing the same dilema.

One drawer would be simpler, weight less, cost less (though this really is not a condition for me), have more usable space (due to the loss in the middle for additional slides and drawer boxes), and it would be easier to adjust how things are stored.

The only advantage of the double drawers is a bit better accessibility.

Some time ago, I bought a set of the heavy slides at 36". I am still leaning towards the one drawer, but am now considering 30" slides.

For access to the pump or water tank, I plan to have the sides only 4" tall at the most as for the most part it will all be compartmentalized with bins and baskets. Another thing I was thinking was to make the piece of OSB over the pump and heater hinged too, for better access from above.
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:23 PM   #4
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If you put in one large wide drawer, I think accessing the stuff would make a long stretch, kinda awkward. I like Bret's solution: 19' Under-bed storage
Yup, that's one of the tradeoffs. On the other hand, two separate drawers means space lost to the drawer sides and divider mechanism between them.

These tradeoffs, and many others, all need to be resolved one way or the other.

This is a part of the exercise I enjoy. Envisioning every option, putting them together (in my mind) in all the myriad ways, trying to trade off one benefit or issue against another.
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:31 PM   #5
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Some time ago, I bought a set of the heavy slides at 36". I am still leaning towards the one drawer, but am now considering 30" slides.
I'm going less depth -- I still want room at the back of the trailer for chairs and tables and bug tents and such. I'm figuring on making the drawer about 22" deep. That specific depth is important, because that's the depth after which it runs into the handle for the cabinet under the fridge. (The nearer handle for the bottom cabinets in front of the sink is closer to the bed, but it's not in the path of a full-width drawer, so not a concern.)

A smaller front-to-back dimension makes reaching into the back of the drawer a little less awkward. But, yeah, to get into the back corner is still going to be a stretch.

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For access to the pump or water tank, I plan to have the sides only 4" tall at the most as for the most part it will all be compartmentalized with bins and baskets. Another thing I was thinking was to make the piece of OSB over the pump and heater hinged too, for better access from above.
OSB? Mine is plywood. I'm happy that way -- really don't like OSB.

I was thinking of hinging it as well. Or simply leave it in place without screws so it can be lifted out easily -- I think that would work, since it is held in place under the mattress.
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:32 PM   #6
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Weight of the single drawer might also be a consideration. With four large bins, it could get pretty heavy.
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:37 PM   #7
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Two design possibilities I'm working with right now: either drawer slides on the sides, or ball bearing rollers under the drawer.

It's easy to find slides rated for 75lbs each. With more money thrown at the problem, they could be rated as high as 300lbs each.

Rollers under the drawer can be as numerous, and thus carry as much weight, as required.

So weight isn't really a problem, so much as simply a factor to be worked into the design. Make sure the slide mechanism can handle the weight, and the latching mechanism can handle the mass.
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:43 PM   #8
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btw, one thing I like very much about Chet's solution is the fact that the separate bins makes it possible and easy to load the bins while in the house and carry them out to the trailer preloaded.

I'm envisioning using these bins for clothes and personal items rather than for stuff that lives in the trailer year 'round, so easy loading for each trip is a consideration.

Not to mention separate bins makes it harder for the wife to claim all the space...
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:50 PM   #9
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As much as 300 lbs.? Maybe the mechanism can handle the weight but can your wife? A single large, deep, heavy drawer would be difficult for me, I know.
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:04 PM   #10
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A 300lb drawer on good slides moves quite easily.

And my wife can deadlift more than I can... (&#@(* knees...)
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