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Old 09-15-2015, 11:13 PM   #21
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The King PAW Series is another good contender, and one that I had looked at for the 19, but never did anything about because to date I rarely have 120V available for use.

The dimensions are good, and two things I like about it are the 6 wattage settings, and the fact it has a squirrel cage fan, which are used in most home furnaces do to how they quietly move air. Plus, I can use the digital wall thermostat with it.

http://king-electric.com/pdfs/PAW_WEB.pdf
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Where it's located matters to me. I don't want to need to get out of bed and wander to the other end of the trailer to turn the furnace up/on.
You don't want to bend over close to floor level to try to read and set a dial? Yeah, me neither. Being near the bed is probably best, but for me, just so long as it is easy to access and set, that is what matters.

Putting a digital thermostat in my 19 was one of the best things I did.
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More looking has turned up a couple other options.

King also sells a toekick heater, one that can be placed down at floor level, which might be a good option for being out of the way. It is deeper than most others though which would be a consideration. It to uses a separate thermostat. It is the Model KT.


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Another company I came across is Cadet, that has a couple interesting offerings.
Electric Wall Heaters | Cadet Heat

They have a model called the Apex72, which mounts at least 72" off the floor, so if there was an unused spot in the cabinetry at least that high, it would work, and it is a small unit.


Another one of theirs of interest is the Energy Plus, which has digital controls on the unit, and lots of nice features, as well as a small form factor.


They also have one that looks fantastic, the RBF, which has a nice looking grill, uses a separate thermostat, but has a fairly large grill at 12W x 19H.
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I have installed many tow space / kick space electric heaters.
The heaters in most cases have a squirrel cage fan and are relatively guiet
plus even when mounted at floor level do not cause heat damage to the flooring.
Berko makes a good heater and they are better guality than the Cadet.
(Refer to the safety recalls on many Cadet heaters.
Toe space heaters can be wired to produce different wattage outputs
from 500 watts to 2000 watts.
The tow space heaters can be controlled by a built in Tstat or a line or low voltage
wall mounted Tstat.
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I have installed many tow space / kick space electric heaters.
The heaters in most cases have a squirrel cage fan and are relatively guiet
plus even when mounted at floor level do not cause heat damage to the flooring.
Berko makes a good heater and they are better guality than the Cadet.
(Refer to the safety recalls on many Cadet heaters.
Toe space heaters can be wired to produce different wattage outputs
from 500 watts to 2000 watts.
The tow space heaters can be controlled by a built in Tstat or a line or low voltage
wall mounted Tstat.
Do you have a link to any specific Berko heater you have used, or like?
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The Eggcamper uses the Cadet heater.
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Do you have a link to any specific Berko heater you have used, or like?
Jim ,I do not have a link .I always bought the electic heaters from an Electrical supply house.
If I remember correctly Berko was bought out by Marley. I installed 4 Cadet heaters in my
cabin mainly because they were CHEAP. Within one year 3 of the 4 heaters failed (2 high limits
and one built in tstat) Cadet would not replace the defective parts until the government forced a recall. I was forced to purchase the parts out of pocket .Luckily my plumbing did not freeze when the heaters failed . We never had callback or warranty issues with Berko. Berko was more expensive up front but cheaper in the long run.
Low end heaters offten use exposed element similar to a toaster where the better heaters use an enclosed element with fins. The enclosed elements hold up to vibration better and operate at a lower temperature range so they last longer. This is the reason baseboard electric heaters have a lifetime warranty and fan forced heaters have as little as a one year warranty
The above is my observations based on 40+ years as an electrician and teaching classes in Electric heating.
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Your rational in quality and longevity make good sense, Steve.

In searching Marley heaters, it seems their name is used in conjunction with Qmark. Their price is in line with the King Heater.
Commercial & Residential Heaters & Ventilation Systems | QMark

Not certain it will work for sure, but I am liking the idea of a toe space heater, more and more.
QTS - Toe Space Fan-Forced Heaters | Qmark | Product Detail
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For those of you that have the built in electric heaters, what wattage do you think would be required for temps around freezing? I know the ideal heater runs 24/7 on the coldest day you would experience and just keep up.

I ask because I am quite keen right now on using a toe kick heater, probably placed in the steps to the loft, and there are a couple good ones that are smaller and light, but only put out 1000W. There are some at up to 1800W, but some of these are much larger.

Many have two or more wattages to choose from, but most require moving jumpers in the heater itself, not real tough, but not something to be done real quick either.
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Our little electric heater puts 1000.......we have been out in -4-5 over night - but have never run it non stop ( gets too warm ) ...... it has an almost zero clearance ( 3-4inches from the flour ) . If we were ever inclined to up-size we'd put in one at each end - but really we will never up-size .......
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