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Old 12-05-2013, 08:11 PM   #21
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Where I stay in the US Virgin Islands where fresh water is at a premium the use of grey water for watering gardens is considered green.
I know a guy, who actually is a plumber, that when they built their house had to put in a cistern to hold fresh water, as there was no municipal supply, and there was no ground water for a well. When a few years later, the local municipality did put in water service, they replumbed their house drains so the showers and sinks drained into the cistern, and they used the pump to pump in out on their lawn and gardens, and boy were they ever lush.
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:44 PM   #22
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Grey water from one trailer or even many campers is vastly different than situations facing popular campgrounds. My understanding from talking with a NPS Ranger is that, at least in US National Parks, that they want to minimize attracting animals to campsites. Grey water used to clean dishes contains food remnants. Any one camper wouldn't constitute much food matter, but with the numbers of people visiting, it would be significant. So most US NPS campgrounds have dish washing stations.
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:41 PM   #23
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That is very true, Eric. If I was at a campground of any sort, I would definitely dispose of waste at a sani-dump. Campgrounds constitute about 10% of my camping though.
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I have visited a lot of US NPs. From what I witnessed, most of the dishwashing stations are nasty. I remember one last year that was being used to wash their small dog. Some people do not have any camping etiquette and simply don't care about rules or cleaning up the messes they make. A lot of our national parks are not what they use to be. Poorly maintained due to budget cuts and the lack of help to keep things repaired and clean.
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I have visited a lot of US NPs. From what I witnessed, most of the dishwashing stations are nasty. I remember one last year that was being used to wash their small dog. Some people do not have any camping etiquette and simply don't care about rules or cleaning up the messes they make. A lot of our national parks are not what they use to be. Poorly maintained due to budget cuts and the lack of help to keep things repaired and clean.
More and more people visiting US NP's, and the parks being budgeted with less and less money - a recipe for disaster. And our National Parks are such a treasure. It seems like visitors from other countries appreciate US National Parks much more than average US citizens do. So many people I have spoken with from overseas marvel at what we have and how most other countries have nothing to compare.

Canada also has so many beautiful parks. I hope they aren't facing the double crunch US ones are currently facing.
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Old 12-06-2013, 06:40 AM   #26
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I agree that typically gray water (w/ biodegradable soap) in itself isn't a problem. Dumping on the ground around bushes wouldn't be a problem once a week, etc. But, some sites hardly cool off before the next camper moves in. Wouldn't take too long before a site could become a stinky swamp.
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...Some people do not have any camping etiquette and simply don't care about rules or cleaning up the messes they make. A lot of our national parks are not what they use to be. Poorly maintained due to budget cuts and the lack of help to keep things repaired and clean.
The greatest problem as I see it is that many people just don't care what kind of negative influence they have on a place. They will not think twice about throwing a cigarette butt on the ground or out their window, trash will be thrown anywhere or allowed to blow away with no thought given to picking things up. When camping, those same people will cut down trees where they are not allowed to do so, or leave their broken lawn chairs or other trash in the middle of a camp site when they leave. They have no consideration for others, and assume that someone else will clean up after them.

I have a (21 yr old) son who has lived in Jasper and Banff National Parks for several years. One day while on a hike with him near Jasper, I noticed that every once in a while he would stop and pick something up and put it in his pocket. He was doing this unobtrusively without making a big deal out of it. I later realized that he was picking up bits and pieces of garbage that others had left behind, and was carrying them with him to later deposit into a garbage bin when we got back to town. It made me proud that he had developed this sense of responsibility and commitment to preserving our natural areas. If this same attitude was adopted by everyone traveling in our parks, these places will continue to exhibit the beauty that has drawn visitors to them for many years. Unfortunately, too many people have the attitude that it is beneath them to clean up after themselves and someone else should do it. Until that general attitude changes, things are going to continue to go down hill.
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Good on your kid Dave, you even see some of that in deep backcountry travel too. You would think that there, where people are hauling their food and gear by canoe, or on foot, they would be more of the type that are inclined to 'Leave No Trace'. While this is true for the majority of users, there are a few that stand out like a sore thumb, the ones that figure that any waste can be burned, with the remains left in the fire pit. I have cleaned out many a firepit upon getting to a site, properly disposing of ashes, and putting the garbage in with mine. I saw a guy one time leave a pop bottle at the end of a portage trail. When I told him he should take it with him, he said not to worry, the Park Facilities Officers would pick it up, it is their job. Piss poor attitude.

There are a couple spots near Calgary where people go camping, just to get out and party. These places have been raped of any possible dry wood to burn, have dozens of firepits all over the place, nails in all the trees, garbage left lying about (and big stuff too). Go for a walk into the trees, and you see a forest of paper roses. This is not really camping, at least in any responsible manner. Here, the disposal of dishwater is but a wee thing compared to the rest of the devastation.

Of course, there are lots of remote boondocking sites where the people using them do so in a responsible manner, and keep the areas clean. There are literally thousands of places within 90 minutes of here to find a spot in the Forestry to boondock.
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Good post Dave W
It strikes a nerve in me to be hiking above tree line with water bottles and granola bar wrappers strewn along the trail. Or go out on a coastal pier at daybreak and see beer cans and frozen bait shrimp boxes scattered about and blowing off into the water.
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Hi there, Was Reace able to tell you if he could put a Nature's Head or other composting toilet in the Escape 5.0 ? Would love to find out if it can be done.
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