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Old 08-23-2016, 05:54 PM   #161
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I don't think the sound of the air conditioner is half as offensive as that of generators.
Generators can be very loud, and will inherently be louder than an air conditioner using the same amount of power that the generator is producing.

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I really get offended by the fact that they are on the side opposite where the owners sit.
Although this placement may invite irresponsible use, I think it is the only rational place to put the generator. It puts the exhaust out where there isn't an awning or people, it leaves accessible storage compartments on the door side (because the compartment which is a generator is not storage), it keeps the noise away from the users in isolated locations, and (at least in my motorhome) it puts the generator exhaust in the same location as the engine exhaust. Notice that the water heater and furnace - which produce exhaust and make noise - are on the street side of an Escape.

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I agree and can attest to a tenting trip disturbed by a Class A rig that rolled out a construction generator.
Fortunately, most Class A motorhomes - at least the larger ones - come with a much quieter built-in generator now as standard equipment. Even those are loud compared to the best inverter-based generators with their variable-speed feature.

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The good news is this A/C mod has sound benefits both inside and outside the trailer regardless of power source.
The lower outside noise is a good indication of higher efficiency. As someone who usually has the windows open, I appreciate that.
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Old 08-23-2016, 05:56 PM   #162
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Escape used to offer the 9200 BTU a/c which I optioned for my first 19' Escape in 2012. I believe it was the Penguin model. It worked off the 2000 watt generator and was more quiet than the bigger Coleman. I tried to get the digital thermostat then but Reace was unable to provide such for the smaller unit. I had the smaller 9200 in my Lance and with the digital thermostat was able to get 2 speeds with it. Thus when Escape offered the digital with the 11000 BTU and the 9200 was no longer an option, I tried that combo. With the 2 speed fan the Coleman 11000 was a lot quieter than the single speed Coleman without the digital thermostat.
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Old 08-23-2016, 06:43 PM   #163
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Generators can be very loud, and will inherently be louder than an air conditioner using the same amount of power that the generator is producing...
I was actually quite surprised at how loud the air conditioner in my 19' is when listening from the outside. While staying at Dead Horse Point State Park in Utah, I took a walk around the campground in the evening and could hear our air conditioner roaring from about 1/2 way across the campground. I was actually a little bit embarrassed to use it after that as there were quite a few tenters in the campground that would likely be disturbed by the noise. We made sure to not use the A/C overnight during the quiet hours.
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Old 08-23-2016, 08:28 PM   #164
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We used our Yamaha 2000w generator this past weekend in a USFS campground in NH. I was slightly surprised at the noise it made. I did not run it much, as it made me feel rather conspicuous. However, there were others running generators, including the campground host.

I also felt conspicuous closing the trailer door, which we have to slam rather hard in order latch. I thought "what if someone in the tent in the next site is trying to sleep and we keep slamming the door?" So I suppose I could be guilted when I make almost any noise. And people could find almost any noise offensive as well. What to do? What to do?
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Called Escape the next day after pickup as the door needed to be really slammed to close which was not the case with our 2010 17B. Was told they went to a new gasket and the tight fit was normal. Two years later it is better.
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I have never slammed my door. Never. I close it most of the way and give a firm push on the door, not the handle.
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Yes, it is far better to be tight initially so that later there are no gaps, as others have mentioned a concern about the gaps around the doors in some early models.
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Old 08-23-2016, 09:11 PM   #168
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I was actually quite surprised at how loud the air conditioner in my 19' is when listening from the outside. While staying at Dead Horse Point State Park in Utah, I took a walk around the campground in the evening and could hear our air conditioner roaring from about 1/2 way across the campground. I was actually a little bit embarrassed to use it after that as there were quite a few tenters in the campground that would likely be disturbed by the noise. We made sure to not use the A/C overnight during the quiet hours.
By the looks of this beautiful campground on Google Earth you were enjoying the convenience of power service and not contending with generators, but fairly close proximity to neighbors with only low and sparse vegetation to help dampen any noise. This is a perfect example where the split system with quiet condensing section I installed would have been hardly noticeable by your neighbor, let alone across the campground...allowing you to use the A/C day or night guilt free.
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One issue with it being too quiet inside is when one of those shade monsters pull in next door and they turn on their dual 50 amp air-conditioning systems while operating their on board generator. Then you may wish you had a louder air conditioning system to create some "white noise"....
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Old 08-23-2016, 09:37 PM   #170
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We used our Yamaha 2000w generator this past weekend in a USFS campground in NH. I was slightly surprised at the noise it made. I did not run it much, as it made me feel rather conspicuous. However, there were others running generators, including the campground host.
I had a similar experience recently at a small lakeside campground in NJ. NJ state parks do not have any utilities (generally cater to tent camping which I grew up doing and can appreciate). The Honda EU2000 was also a bit louder than I expected. It was reasonable when placed at the corner of the site with a decent length cord and exhaust pointing away from others. Also used a handmade insulated enclosure loosely placed around the generator on 3 sides and top. It was made by my father out of 2" Owens Corning FOAMULAR polystyrene that was left over from a custom Scamp floor insulation project. It made a huge difference. It was a very hot weekend and still I felt bad and really only ran it to cool the trailer down for lunch and before going to bed.
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