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Old 08-26-2018, 12:59 PM   #1
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Dinette to office conversion?

We are considering remodelling the dinette area of our Escape 19. We find the seats and table very uncomfortable and we never need the bed option. What we do need is comfortable seating for two along with a combo of eating and desk space/office storage.

Would love opinions on something like the attached photo! Of course, we'd do this ourselves so it would be a lot more sleek and built in.

We understand that we will need to work around the tanks/electrical that are under the existing driver's side seat now.
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Old 08-26-2018, 02:18 PM   #2
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The space is much longer side-to-side across the trailer (78.75" in the current model according to the floorplan) than it is front-to-back along the trailer (44"). To me, that means that you would have the two seating positions facing each other across the trailer.

Since there wouldn't be enough trailer width unless the curb-side seat is on top of or replacing the original dinette bench, I assume that you would need to use a comfortable seat without a pedestal or legs, mounted on top of the original bench or a replacement. Something intended for a boat would likely work. Again according to the floorplan dimensions, the current bench is 19" high. That's too tall to add a seat on top, so I would plan on removing the original bench entirely, and building a lower structural box just high enough to clear the black waste tank and electrical components. An alternative might be to use the original bench but add a raised floor section so that the seat surface is a suitable height above the floor.

The seat on the curb side could be floor-standing, or mounted on a box (storage!) and matching the driver's side. If floor-standing it could even be free-standing, but would need a convenient strap to secure it while towing.

I would want the seats to be able to pivot to some extent, to directly face each other for dining or desk use, to angle into the trailer for lounging, or even to angle toward the front window a bit if watching something out the window. It's hard to imagine enough space for both to recline, but maybe one (presumably the curb side) could recline... but it would need to slide away from the wall when doing that.

I assume that the table in the example shown does not fold but slides partially under the rest of the desk when the entire surface is not needed; whatever that one does you may want to fold or partially retract the table when not dining or working at the desk... especially if the surface over the storage (which would run across the front of the trailer) remains as a side table. The "modified" and "executive" table versions in the Country Craftsman computer desk line use slides instead of two legs for the table, making more storage available and reducing or elminating table leg interfence with foot space. To fold, it could hinge down (which would block access to any storage in that space), or be lifted and slid vertically into a pocket. The table in the example appears to be free-standing - a free-standing table should have a method to strap it in place while towing.
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I always thought that the lower compartments were build structural related and could not be eliminated.
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watch teh weight of whatever you add. most home furnishings are NOT built to be light weight.
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Old 08-26-2018, 06:23 PM   #5
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I always thought that the lower compartments were build structural related and could not be eliminated.
It probably is a good idea to keep cabinet framing connected to the shell, to stiffen the shell. That doesn't mean that the cabinets can't be changed, or even largely eliminated.
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Old 08-26-2018, 06:25 PM   #6
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watch teh weight of whatever you add. most home furnishings are NOT built to be light weight.
Good point - the sample shown in the photo and the desks that I linked are intended for RVs, but are solidly constructed and hefty. These specific units are more commonly used in RVs weighing several tons, rather than in lightweight travel trailers. The design ideas can still be used, but with appropriate materials and construction details.
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Old 08-26-2018, 09:56 PM   #7
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I’d be tempted to use the door side dinette as the seating side and the bathroom side dinette as the desk. Sit side by side, maybe even a Lagun style table attched to the bath side dinette bench.

Or have a fold down desk top, secretary style, again based on the bath side dinette.

You could even put a lightweight chair on the side of the table. I have one of this aluminum side chairs like were used in schools in the 1950s. Mine actually came from a hospital. Compact and lightweight!
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Old 08-26-2018, 11:48 PM   #8
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Id be tempted to use the door side dinette as the seating side and the bathroom side dinette as the desk. Sit side by side, maybe even a Lagun style table attched to the bath side dinette bench.
That can work, too. I just wonder - would be enough elbow room to be really comfortable?
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Old 08-27-2018, 10:20 AM   #9
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Whatever I did I would make it reversible. And the bath side dinette has the electric panel and even some plumbing in it. So a design that maintained that dinette base would be less work.
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Old 08-27-2018, 12:29 PM   #10
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Thanks for replies!

Thank you so much for your replies and suggestions!! We totally agree that we need to retain lightweight functionality and structural integrity. Here's where we are getting our design ideas from - some absolutely amazing German engineered campers.

https://www.knaus.com/en-int/caravans/
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