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Old 06-14-2016, 02:26 PM   #31
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"If you want a single easy-to-follow guideline which is far more valid, try this: do what the owner's manual of your specific tow vehicle says.
Exactly! The Owners Manual of our Ford Explorer gives a Tow Rating of 5000# "With Weight Distribution Hitch". We love the feeling of one unit connectivity too
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Old 06-14-2016, 02:32 PM   #32
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Here is what I would do.
1. Buy and install the Pro Tow WDH....
Dave, I assume that was intended to be "Pro Series WDH", the less expensive of Escape's options. Of course any other brand of basic two-bars-and-chains WDH would work the same way.
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If you want a single easy-to-follow guideline which is far more valid, try this: do what the owner's manual of your specific tow vehicle says.
Exactly! The Owners Manual of our Ford Explorer gives a Tow Rating of 5000# "With Weight Distribution Hitch". We love the feeling of one unit connectivity too
Manuals typically also provide a trailer weight limit with weight-carrying hitch (or without weight distribution hitch). That gives the straightforward answer to whether or not the manufacturer says WD is needed.

This is what Ford actually says for the 2015 Explorer, on page 275 of the owner's manual:
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For towing trailers up to 3500 pounds (1588 kilograms), use a weight-carrying hitch and ball. For towing trailers over 3500 pounds (1588 kilograms), up to the maximum trailer weight, we recommend you use a weight-distributing hitch.
So if you want a quick-and-dirty, rule-of-thumb answer to for what trailer to use WD with this particular tug (not the one the original poster is asking about), the answer is 3500 pounds. In Escape terms, that means the 19' and 21' models.

For the 2002 Pathfinder that the original poster has, the equivalent quick answer was given in post #15: WD is not required with any weight of trailer, although of course rear axle load must stay within its GAWR.
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Dave, I assume that was intended to be "Pro Series WDH", the less expensive of Escape's options. Of course any other brand of basic two-bars-and-chains WDH would work the same way.
Yup, I have had too many similar phrases through my mind in the
Past 68 years and get them mixed up if I don't double check. I'm hanging 4 loose links with the Highlander and the Escape 19 with 14 inch tires. If dead level or the tongue slightly "up" with the ball on the hitch, flipping the tension yolks is easy (er) for me. When I'm feeling real good I can do it without the provided cheater. Nose down hard, not so much.
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I talked with a friend who pulls a travel trailer and asked his advice on this matter. He says he ought to know, he was a professional 18 wheel truck driver for over 20 years and had to deal with weight distribution. He says unless the weight of what you are pulling comes close to what your tow vehicle is rated to pull then you don't need one.

We used a sway bar on our Casita in the past and liked it.

Nancy, yes, what he says is basically correct. So when someone has a great big powerful heavy truck that can tow nearly twice or more of the loaded weight of a small trailer, it is generally thought that a WDH is of little use.

Many, if not most, of those towing fiberglass trailers are doing so with small trucks or SUVs or other passenger vehicles that do not have very much weight or towing capacity in comparison to the load. So probably most of us can benefit from a WDH.

We do not have new numbers. Our old WDH numbers though have us transferring nearly 200 lbs. to the front of the tow vehicle and 100 lbs. back to the trailer, off of the tongue or off of the back of the tow vehicle. We consider that to make the towing situation more stable as it can affect the front wheels of the vehicle for the better.
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Have to wonder what he would say if his truck was front-wheel-drive.
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Old 06-14-2016, 05:25 PM   #37
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I mean no disrespect to your friend, but I don't think any number of years towing 20-ton fifth-wheel semi-trailers with ten-ton tractors which are designed specifically for towing would provide anyone with any useful understanding either of weight-distributing hitches (which are not used in commercial towing, not used with large trailers, and not used with any size of fifth-wheel trailer), or of towing small trailers with passenger vehicles and pickup trucks.
Brian you said exactly what I was thinking
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Brian you said exactly what I was thinking
If you are taking issue with the trucker's comment, instead of simply knocking his experience that you may or may not have, either of you please explain.

He is saying, in effect, that you need a WDH when the weight you are pulling comes close to your tow vehicle capacity. That is what we most see in fiberglass situations, and hence, many use a WDH for that very reason. The fact there there are a number of possible considerations does not detract from his basically correct statement.
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The fact there there are a number of possible considerations does not detract from his basically correct statement.
I read that he is dismissing WDH and I don't think he knows what he is talking about. Not going to ask him for financial or medical advice either.
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I read that he is dismissing WDH and I don't think he knows what he is talking about. Not going to ask him for financial or medical advice either.
Well, maybe so, but I did not take it that way because that is probably the majority of our situations, as he describes. That our weights are pretty close to towing capacity, so a WDH would be good. He would be right in our cases if you read how it applies to us.
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