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Old 11-14-2012, 07:20 PM   #31
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Hi Jane,
We love our 15A....

We pull with a RAV4 and did end up getting an equilizer hitch after a few trips and now enjoy greater stability and a more level tow.
Good luck on your decisions.


Cozy Rosie, I see that you smartly ended up with a weight distributing hitch and you could see the difference. Andy Thomson of RV Lifestyle has written numerous pieces on just about every aspect of this subject. I gather from what he says that he would put a WDH on every Escape out there except maybe the ones pulled by big trucks (not sure he would not even include those). According to Thomson, the difference that a WDH makes is dramatic and he is including small trailers down to tent or pop-outs.

He has also done track tests where he concluded that a WDH vastly cut down on any possible out-of-control swaying and even sounded as if it would be impossible to have such a situation with a WDH. Thomson's articles are partial unless you subscribe to their magazine out of Ontario.

When someone says that you don't need a WDH, you may not if you have a great big truck or if you don't care about stability and maybe saving your life.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:45 PM   #32
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Hmm - guess I have more research to do on the propane quick connect. I was under the impression that you could disconnect the connector when not in use and the valve would then be flush with the side of the trailer. The picture on the Escape accessories web page shows that it does stick out.

Will have to weigh the pockie outie connector VS buying a 4# propane tank for the outdoor stove and bbq.

Gbags - I agree - I can picture myself and the dog or both tripping over the hose. But I do like the idea of not having another tank to haul around.

When I first considered buying a trailer a friend told me 'everything is a tradeoff'. How true that is!!

At least it is nice to have options. I remember camping as a kid and cooking (burning) food over a fire grill. Then graduating to very old style colman stove with the fuel cannister and spilling coleman fuel everywhere. Thanks for the info - more to think about.
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Old 11-14-2012, 07:58 PM   #33
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At least it is nice to have options. I remember camping as a kid and cooking (burning) food over a fire grill. Then graduating to very old style colman stove with the fuel cannister and spilling coleman fuel everywhere. Thanks for the info - more to think about.
This reminded me of the old coleman stove joke!

A guy jumps out of an airplane with a parachute on his back. As he's falling he realizes his chute is broken, now he doesn't know anything about parachutes really, but as the earth rapidly approaches he realizes his options are limited, he takes off the parachute and tries to fix it himself on the way down. The wind is ripping past his face, he's dropping like a rock, and at 5000 feet another guy goes shooting Up past him. In desperation, our man with the chute looks up and yells, "Hey do you know anything about parachutes?!?!?" The guy flying up looks down and yells, "NO, do you know anything about Coleman gas stoves!?!?!

Naptha can be very scary in the wrong hands!!!

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Old 11-14-2012, 08:27 PM   #34
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Yep, here comes the contrary.
On a 17 day trip with friends this summer, they seldom pulled out their BBQ and bottle, instead opting to use ours. They are getting a new motorhome made for them right now, and were so impressed with our setup, they are getting a quick coupling installed.
Your friends are no dummies.
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:47 PM   #35
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Congratulations Jane. You will love it!! Happy camping.

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Another option for you to consider, Jane, is a coupler that allows you to refill a small propane cylinder from a large tank and use the refilled cylinder on your BBQ. Go here for a description: Home. This would allow you to use the propane you carry around and not need an extra coupler installed underneath your 15A.
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My understanding is that there are systems sold you can refill a 1 lb. container, but it is not advised. Which is why it says not to refill on the containers I've bought. A 5 lb. propane tank lasts a long time and is a safer option. I carry a couple 1 lb. tanks just in case.
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Another option for you to consider, Jane, is a coupler that allows you to refill a small propane cylinder from a large tank and use the refilled cylinder on your BBQ. Go here for a description: Home. This would allow you to use the propane you carry around and not need an extra coupler installed underneath your 15A.
I have one of those, Jim. I tried using it while out camping, and got very little into the cylinder. I researched and found that if you put the cylinder in the freezer for a while, it will take more propane. I did try that, and it worked better, but still did not seem to last very long. In the end I gave it up. For the time it took, it just was not worth it to me. I could go to work for an extra hour, and compensate for 5 hours saving money filling the cylinders. Plus, it was no fun, and I want to spend as much of my time having fun as possible.
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This reminded me of the old coleman stove joke!

A guy jumps out of an airplane with a parachute on his back. As he's falling he realizes his chute is broken, now he doesn't know anything about parachutes really, but as the earth rapidly approaches he realizes his options are limited, he takes off the parachute and tries to fix it himself on the way down. The wind is ripping past his face, he's dropping like a rock, and at 5000 feet another guy goes shooting Up past him. In desperation, our man with the chute looks up and yells, "Hey do you know anything about parachutes?!?!?" The guy flying up looks down and yells, "NO, do you know anything about Coleman gas stoves!?!?!

Naptha can be very scary in the wrong hands!!!

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In my case, Reace arranged for an adaptor which screws right onto one of the 20 lb propane tanks. I then went to a local hose industrial hose company and had them make me a 20 foot hose that screws into the adaptor with quick connects on the business end and two 3 foot hoses to go to the Coleman stove and the Weber. No muss, no fuss and you always have propane without dragging around an extra cylinder. Also a bit more environmentally friendly then the 1 lb bottles. Note: The Coleman will not work on the low pressure fitting as it require high pressure to work. The Weber will if you remove the pressure regulator.

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