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Old 04-08-2016, 09:29 AM   #21
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I bought one of these to use in the receiver at the rear of the trailer. I also bought a telescoping flag pole to go into the mount. My plan, when I'm camped for several days or in crappy weather, is to use a television antenna on the pole and connect to the coax connection on the trailer.
Donna, which telescoping mast do you use? (I have the same mast holder.)
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Not if you put it under a stabilizer as you mentioned in your earlier post.
Geez, thanks for the reminder that I am losing my mind.
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Yup, I spend Thursday afternoons with my bikes and beer group -- the Blue Herons Bicycle and Hops Society. We have been gathering at various micro breweries for over three years now. If the weather is decent we ride.

I got a wifi repeater set up from JefaTech I got the high gain antenna which is 1650mm long.
Like the bike 'n beer idea, Leon.

And great idea for a setup. This router could also be used to create a network for our devices.

Am I right to assume the mast could be used for an HD TV and phone booster antenna too?
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I like the idea of using the receiver at the back bumper to mount an antenna but I also have a bike rack to put there and wouldn't want to be swapping them out. Can't ETI install another receiver off to the side? I seem to recall someone having three receivers across the width of the bumper so they could mount a substantial storage box.
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Can't ETI install another receiver off to the side?
That would be a good solution too. I am sure they would do it, you would just have to make sure that you could use it with the bikes on the rack.
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I like the idea of using the receiver at the back bumper to mount an antenna but I also have a bike rack to put there and wouldn't want to be swapping them out. Can't ETI install another receiver off to the side? I seem to recall someone having three receivers across the width of the bumper so they could mount a substantial storage box.
I had considered this too. You could get a bumper mounted receiver to use with the flag pole holder. But a cheaper and more elegant solution I think is to use something like this. I only wish it had a larger diameter.
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Yup, I spend Thursday afternoons with my bikes and beer group -- the Blue Herons Bicycle and Hops Society. We have been gathering at various micro breweries for over three years now. If the weather is decent we ride.

I got a wifi repeater set up from JefaTech I got the high gain antenna which is 1650mm long. I got a 18" piece of scrap 2" PVC from the hardware store and attached that to the tongue jack with radiator clamps. That serves as the base of the mast when it is up. Then I got a 6' piece of 1.5" PVC that serves as the antenna pole. I attached the metal base of the antenna to a 12" piece of PVC that screws in to the mast with clamps. The antenna slides into the metal base and is secured with a small phillips screw. The cable goes from the antenna to a power cord port that is next to the storage hatch on the 21. I would have liked to find a nicer port, but decided that this was the easiest, best solution.

When traveling, the antenna slips inside the antenna pole which, intern slips into a piece of 2" PVC that is secured to the rear bumper with more radiator clamps. I have attached a photo of the antenna below.

Jefatech says that some folks who have class A motor homes have attached the antenna to the satellite dishes that fold flat for travel but can be raised when camping.

I have been pleased with the Jefatech solution as a WIFI repeater. It is based on a Linksys WRT54GL WIFI router. I considered just buying a router and flashing it with DD-WRT. But decided that for the $30.00 difference it made more sense to get jefatech's custom build. The repeater is easy to configure for most wireless networks that I have run across. Usually you just have to join the network and enter the userid and password that the campground gives you. There were a couple of campgrounds that were using older WEP encryption which were a bit more complicated. In one case, I had to enter the ASCII codes of the passphrase rather than the characters. And in one case, I couldn't get the repeater to join the network -- but that campground had a particularly complicated chicken dance to get any device on their network. We finally just used the open wifi at the nearby McDonalds (which we could get with the big antenna).
Great info, thanks for sharing.

I will have a very similar setup. I found a Linksys WRT54G in my garage and flashed it with the dd-wrt firmware. It will be paired with an L-com antenna. After a lot a ton of research I am ditching the powered antenna mount idea in favor of a less permanent setup. I will instead mount a telescoping pole to the rear bumper and deploy as needed. I am looking at this mast from Max Gain Systems.

My next dilemma is how to run the coax cable to the router. I want to avoid long runs to minimize signal loss. I could use the Ubiquiti Bullet and connect to the router with an RJ45 cable, but it comes at an additional expense and setup.

How long is the cable that you used? Is there any noticeable drop in performance?
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Like the bike 'n beer idea, Leon.

And great idea for a setup. This router could also be used to create a network for our devices.

Am I right to assume the mast could be used for an HD TV and phone booster antenna too?
Yup. The router creates a network ("Skylark" in my case), and our laptops, tablets, and phones can all join Skylark rather than the campground's network. Since they have been on Skylark before, we don't have to configure each of the devices. This is really nice when the campground gives you separate password for every device that is on their network.

I don't know a lot about antennas, radio waves, etc. but I don't see any reason why you couldn't put other antennas up there as well. I bet someone like Mike Lewis could give you a better answer. As a matter of fact, Thoer and I had a brief discussion about whether or not I would get a TV antenna on top of the trailer again. I said that I wouldn't bother to get another antenna for several reasons:s
  1. Turns out we don't watch broadcast TV all that much. We were gone about 6 weeks this spring and only watched broadcast TV a couple of times
  2. If I do want to watch TV I could put up an antenna on the wifi mast or maybe one of the antennas that attach to the window
  3. Many times the places we camp are way out of range from any broadcast tv

In the interest of full disclosure, I should mention that there are a lot of places that don't have WIFI, so this antenna set up doesn't work. Or maybe we are paying more attention to other things. But we found several CA state parks that had wifi, some MN state parks with wifi, and if you are spending an overnight in a Walmart, Cracker Barrel, etc, there is often WIFI available. And of course the reception in some campgrounds is spotty.
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This is really nice when the campground gives you separate password for every device that is on their network.

I said that I wouldn't bother to get another antenna for several reasons:s
  1. Turns out we don't watch broadcast TV all that much. We were gone about 6 weeks this spring and only watched broadcast TV a couple of times
  2. If I do want to watch TV I could put up an antenna on the wifi mast or maybe one of the antennas that attach to the window
  3. Many times the places we camp are way out of range from any broadcast tv
That alone is a good reason to have a router, that with one password entered all devices are covered. We usually each have a phone, Lisa with a tablet, and me with a laptop.

Did JefaTech just set up the router for you, or did they do the install either.

For pretty much the same reasons as you Leon, I too am foregoing the roof mounted antenna. Another reason is they just don't look nice. But neither does a solar panel, and I am most likely getting one of those.
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Donna, really interesting idea. Where did you purchase the pole holder for receiver at the rear of the trailer and also where did you get the telescoping flag pole to go into the mount? Did you find an a TV antenna that works on top of the pole? It sounds just like what I have been trying to figure out for my 17b. Do you have a cell antenna installed on the side of the trailer or do you use the pole for that also? Of course if staying somewhere for a while you might need cell and tv antenna both, would they work on same pole? Trying to not put holes in my trailer. Thanks for any info, much appreciated!
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