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Old 12-18-2015, 10:32 PM   #21
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Wouldn't the open windows, the bathroom vent, the stove top vent, the MaxFan and possibly door, let the heat and noise in?
We often, even in summer, don't keep any windows open overnight. Maybe a hatch cracked open, but that's it. I know in some much hotter areas some would want windows open all night but most of the time ours are closed and we've heard the difference in noise level with them closed so we're happy to have them.

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Old 12-18-2015, 11:15 PM   #22
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Insulation may do even better at keeping the heat out in summer (with most windows closed and vents open a little) than keeping heat in, in cold weather. Depends on how much heat on the trailer in summer. Covering windows in summer is very important also to keep heat out.
I will add to my own post. I meant to say the above for daytime. In hot weather, it is best to open windows at night to let the cooler air in, keeping them closed in the day.
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Old 12-19-2015, 09:21 AM   #23
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We don't have the extra insulation and double pane Windows and don't miss it. Of course we are in Texas and camp in milder winters and hot summers. We elected for the insulation under the trailer to keep the floors at a more constant temperature. We have been as low as 35 degrees F and as high as 100 F. No real condensation problems with proper ventilation and the furnace and air conditioner really keep the inside warm/cold. It was a cost/benefit decision for us and we are happy with our decision.
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Old 12-19-2015, 10:59 AM   #24
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We often, even in summer, don't keep any windows open overnight. Maybe a hatch cracked open, but that's it. I know in some much hotter areas some would want windows open all night but most of the time ours are closed and we've heard the difference in noise level with them closed so we're happy to have them.

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How are you able to measure the difference in noise levels if you only camp with one trailer?
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Old 12-19-2015, 11:09 AM   #25
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Those of us that have had more than one molded trailer and went from single-pane to double-pane windows know the noise level difference. I camp a lot at one particular campground, often in the same site. Granted the people around me are different each time. But when I go inside Ten Forward and shut the door (no windows or vents open), its very quiet. That wasn't usually the came in the Scamp with the single-pane windows. Trust me.


BUT, YMMV
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Old 12-19-2015, 11:20 AM   #26
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Quiet must be subjective. After having a soft sided trailer, the Escape is indeed an improvement, but not nearly as much as I had hoped for. Try sleeping in a Walmart parking lot, you'll see what I mean. And yes, I have the extra thermal package.
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Old 12-19-2015, 11:40 AM   #27
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Those of us that have had more than one molded trailer and went from single-pane to double-pane windows know the noise level difference. I camp a lot at one particular campground, often in the same site. Granted the people around me are different each time. But when I go inside Ten Forward and shut the door (no windows or vents open), its very quiet. That wasn't usually the came in the Scamp with the single-pane windows. Trust me.
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I hear what you're saying Donna, and I do trust you, but I think you're comparing noise levels from 2 entirely different sources (trailers).
Again, if I was pondering the insulation/double glazed window option ($1000.00 extra and not all windows are going to be double glazed) I would try to imagine my camping requirements and buy accordingly. Summertime use, in my opinion, this option is not necessary if there is no air conditioning unit ($1100.00 extra) and you want to open windows and or your door. Winter camping use, most definitely get the option.
I certainly would not buy the option because I felt it would be that much quieter.
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Old 12-19-2015, 11:45 AM   #28
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I purchased the option more for the condensation issue. Second winter and they're working as I had hoped. Too, summer doesn't always mean camping when it's HOT... remember a lot of folks on the west coast camp at the beach where it's 60 degrees in July/August.


I think Bob said it best "Quiet must be subjective."
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Old 12-19-2015, 11:49 AM   #29
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I think I'd have to agree that it's probably desirable to have the extra insulation and double glazed windows if you winter camp cutting down on condensation and such, but I'm still puzzled on how, with out air conditioning (AC), it's cooler and quieter in the summer. Without AC wouldn't the windows be open to make use of the fans? Wouldn't the open windows, the bathroom vent, the stove top vent, the MaxFan and possibly door, let the heat and noise in?
In bright, direct sunlight, even the white surface of the Escape gets at least warm, and sometimes hot. Without the extra insulation, that reradiates to the inside even with the windows open. The extra insulation will cut down this effect.
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Old 12-19-2015, 11:55 AM   #30
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In bright, direct sunlight, even the white surface of the Escape gets at least warm, and sometimes hot. Without the extra insulation, that reradiates to the inside even with the windows open. The extra insulation will cut down this effect.
Sure, but by how much?
Wouldn't that same insulation keep the re-radiated heat inside?
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