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Old 12-17-2015, 07:10 PM   #1
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extra insulation or not

I have a 19' on order and we are pondering the merits of the extra insulation. Would it really make a difference as it is so thin?
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Old 12-17-2015, 07:14 PM   #2
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Hard to say as I've not owned a trailer without the extra. I believe any amount of insulation is better then none. Be hard to add it later if you find out none was not enough.
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Old 12-17-2015, 07:33 PM   #3
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Given the location you are at, I'd think it would be one of the non-option items for you. We went with it and we're in Phoenix. The dual pane windows are worth it alone, and the reflectix type layer has a pretty good insulating value.
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Old 12-17-2015, 07:40 PM   #4
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If I only ordered one option, it would be the extra insulation and dual glazed windows. Helps keep the heat in when it is cold outside, and helps keep the heat out when it is hot outside.

If you were camping in moderate temps (10-25 °C) you might not need it, but we see most nights being a heck of a lot colder than that here, and I know it sure gets hot down in the southern US.

This is one of the few options that you really couldn't add at a later date as well, whereas most others you could.
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Old 12-17-2015, 07:59 PM   #5
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And there is the sound insulating value for KOAs and popular remote Forest Service sites.
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Old 12-17-2015, 08:36 PM   #6
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In the summer, wouldn't extra insulation and dual glazed windows only be effective with an air conditioning system? Open windows and doors still let the heat in don't they?
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The R value of the insulation is very very low, however, despite that, many report that the insulation is very effective compared to what they had with other fiberglass trailer brands. We would not be without it. It is also sought by buyers looking for used.

In hot weather, insulation also keeps out the heat (which foam on the bottom should also do). With hot weather, door and windows should be closed in the day except to get a little air in and out using the fan, and door and windows should be opened when it is cooler at night. With no A/C you would be running the Maxx fan in the day which works very well. That is as good as you can do. Opening door and windows in the day lets in the hot air. People want to open them but not the best idea. You also can get a portable fan. They come in 12V.
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Old 12-17-2015, 09:37 PM   #8
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X 3 or so for the value of the dual glazing. Sound reduction is good and the reduction in condensation is excellent. You can see the difference because the front window on the 19 is only single glazed due to the window cover.

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Old 12-17-2015, 09:39 PM   #9
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Twin 6V batteries and insulation are the 2 most important options for me.
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Old 12-17-2015, 09:48 PM   #10
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In the camping I've experienced, which I might add is only in the summer, we keep the windows and door open most of the time so the $1000.00 Canadian dollars spent on double glazing and insulation (to keep heat and noise out) would be better spent elsewhere. So far, we feel the same about air conditioning because we usually dry camp.
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Old 12-17-2015, 09:55 PM   #11
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Well, no one has said they don't have it and don't miss it. Thanks for all the input.
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Old 12-17-2015, 10:01 PM   #12
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After camping for many years across many seasons in my Scamp with single-pane windows (and dealing with horrible condensation), I'm glad I have the double-pane windows and extra insulation in Ten Forward. I didn't get the foam however. December is the only month I don't camp... too much going on personally. But November and January can be wet and cold... not inside Ten Forward! YMMV
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Old 12-18-2015, 12:28 AM   #13
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I vote with Donna - probably because I live in the same place and for the same reasons!
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Old 12-18-2015, 04:17 PM   #14
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extra insulation and double glazed windows was an essential option for us as winter users of the trailer.
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Old 12-18-2015, 05:51 PM   #15
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extra insulation and double glazed windows was an essential option for us as winter users of the trailer.

Even when you don't winter camp, still a great idea. Cooler in the summer, quieter, and less condensation.
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Old 12-18-2015, 06:51 PM   #16
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Well, no one has said they don't have it and don't miss it. Thanks for all the input.
We purchased that option as well. No complaints. The last time we were at ETI, someone working there mentioned that it's their most popular option -- something like > 90% of buyers get it.
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One of the big reasons people buy insulation with the build is that putting it in later would be a lot of trouble. Not to mention the window expense. There is probably someone out there who regrets having insulation, but not many of us!
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Old 12-18-2015, 07:25 PM   #18
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We bought our unit used in early 2009 and it doesn't even have the tinted windows!
I wish that we had the extra insulation and double windows---but will try to put some of the extra insulation around the bottom this coming spring... Our two front side windows are changed to the little opening ones and they are tinted---but you make do with what you have...

If I was doing it gain--that would for sure be an option...
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Even when you don't winter camp, still a great idea. Cooler in the summer, quieter, and less condensation.
I think I'd have to agree that it's probably desirable to have the extra insulation and double glazed windows if you winter camp cutting down on condensation and such, but I'm still puzzled on how, with out air conditioning (AC), it's cooler and quieter in the summer. Without AC wouldn't the windows be open to make use of the fans? Wouldn't the open windows, the bathroom vent, the stove top vent, the MaxFan and possibly door, let the heat and noise in?
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Insulation may do even better at keeping the heat out in summer (with most windows closed and vents open a little) than keeping heat in, in cold weather. Depends on how much heat on the trailer in summer. Covering windows in summer is very important also to keep heat out.
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