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Old 07-23-2017, 06:58 PM   #1
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For those 2ndG Escape 19 with the awning windows...

I found a longer door stop to extend the 6" opener to 10" space, should allow full opening of the dinette window behind the door. Mine arrived today...
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Old 07-23-2017, 07:49 PM   #2
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Fantastic. Every time I latch our door I think I need to figure out how to extend the bar. I didn't even think to look to see if they made a longer one. Have you installed it yet? Any issues with the fit?
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Old 07-23-2017, 08:01 PM   #3
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It appears that the receiver piece on the door is identical so just the lock tab on the trailer needs replacing. It is reveted on, need to decide if rivet or screws into some wood blocking. Easy access under dinette seat. Will post pictures.
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:12 PM   #4
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Today I installed the longer door stop. I first drilled out the original rivets with 2 drills, a smaller one that releases the stem and then 9/64 which snaps off the outer rivet head. I now took a penknife and scored the perimeter to break any sealant and the old one popped off.
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:20 PM   #5
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I decided to utilize the old rivet base as they were still secure, so I had to find the proper size bolt that would fit the hole. I have an assortment in the basement and after several trips found the correct length and diameter. I gently threaded the bolt onto the rivet and them removed. I placed some sealant around the holes, mounted the new plate, more sealant on the threads and secured the new holder. I did not have to remove the door portion as it is the same for both models.
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:22 PM   #6
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Awning window full open with new door stop
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Old 08-11-2017, 12:25 PM   #7
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This may work with the 21 and 17 models if the door is over the window area.
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Old 08-25-2017, 10:56 AM   #8
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Had a chance to try the new door holder while camping last night locally, it works like a charm and the dinette window clears the door while fully open, I'm a happy camper. Next up, tapping into the heat to heat the bathroom.....tbc
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Old 08-25-2017, 04:08 PM   #9
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Escape needs to change to a longer holder standard. Awning windows...
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Old 08-25-2017, 07:40 PM   #10
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Well at least it is an easy and non expensive fix with Escape, I lost $thousands on 2x Lance Trailers that had slide and roof issues, both brand new, both sold within 6 months.
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Change to stainless 10 in and you never will need to replace . Our plastic one was getting ready to break before 4 years . Pat
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Change to stainless 10 in and you never will need to replace . Our plastic one was getting ready to break before 4 years . Pat
I can not find a 10" stainless, only the plastic, but yes that is preferable.
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Old 08-25-2017, 09:05 PM   #13
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Escape needs to change to a longer holder standard. Awning windows...
Agree; what a no-brainer. Are they really delivering new trailers knowing of this problem?
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Old 08-25-2017, 11:46 PM   #14
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We picked up our 19 this week and we didn't have a door holder anymore, the door stays where we left it (friction?)
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We picked up our 19 this week and we didn't have a door holder anymore, the door stays where we left it (friction?)
That's interesting. I would not trust that at all. One good gust of wind and the door will slam shut or slam open depending on the direction. If there's no holder, I would inquire with Escape as to why.
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That's interesting. I would not trust that at all. One good gust of wind and the door will slam shut or slam open depending on the direction. If there's no holder, I would inquire with Escape as to why.
Having had 2 of those doors on previous RV's . There needs to be a door keeper or holder . Yes it will slam . Pat
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That's interesting. I would not trust that at all. One good gust of wind and the door will slam shut or slam open depending on the direction. If there's no holder, I would inquire with Escape as to why.
We have the new door and it would take a serious sustained wind to move it. You wouldn't want to have the door open in that kind of wind anyway. We'll see how it performs over time, but so far, I like it. Though, it does take a good tug to get it to close when inside. It's quite stiff and doesn't move with ease like the door on our Casita which was similar in style, but without the friction.
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We picked up our 19 this week and we didn't have a door holder anymore, the door stays where we left it (friction?)
When the new body style came out, there was extensive discussion of the door, mostly about the screen. At the time it appeared that Escape is using a Lippert door; according to Lippert's web site, they offer a Friction Hinge, apparently as a standard feature:
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Lippert Components integrated Friction Hinge™ holds the door open in any position, eliminating the need for gas struts and door catches, which can lead to costly warranty claims. The high performance fringe torque also prevents the door from slamming open or closed, and keeps the door steady in winds up to 15 mph!
This isn't a positive stop, so if wind (or someone) pushes the door hard enough it could still hit the open window.

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I would not trust that at all. One good gust of wind and the door will slam shut or slam open depending on the direction.
True for a typical RV door without any hold-open feature. I have had two of those (one with a holdback like Escape uses, one with a gas strut), but I haven't tried Lippert's Friction Hinge door.
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True for a typical RV door without any hold-open feature. I have had two of those (one with a holdback like Escape uses, one with a gas strut), but I haven't tried Lippert's Friction Hinge door.
OK, so I wasn't aware that it was a friction hinge designed to stay open in the wind. Hopefully that means no door stay is needed.
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"This isn't a positive stop, so if wind (or someone) pushes the door hard enough it could still hit the open window."
I would want the door keeper with maybe a possible damage to my windows . Pat
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