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Old 11-29-2015, 03:51 PM   #21
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It could be that the low pressure quick connect is looked at as a device itself.

I know this is the reason all propane lines are run under an RV, with individual lines to appliances.
That would make sense. Certainly avoiding connections inside the trailer is a good thing, and would be even if it were not required by code.
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Old 11-29-2015, 04:39 PM   #22
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I'll jump in with my 2 cents (US)...

Combustion produces 4 byproducts. CO, CO2, H2O and unburnt fuel - all in various amounts depending on the source. We don't want any of these in the trailer. To that end we have a hard rule: If the stove is on, so is the exhaust fan, plus a vent is open for incoming air. Yes - it is cold in winter. And to add to the problem, I can't possible sleep with the built-in furnace running.

Our solution - an electric blanket or similar. We have a heated mattress pad on our To-Buy list.

Back in the "old days", while living on a boat with the same problems, we used a small inverter (400 watts) and electric blanket. The price to pay for quiet heat was running the engine for an hour to charge the batteries the next day. These days with the solar setup, which includes the standard roof panel plus a portable 150 watt panel, there will be no problems replacing the power used.

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Old 11-29-2015, 05:32 PM   #23
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Thanks everyone for their input! I think Jon hit the nail on the head since he is already doing what I plan on in the near future!
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Old 11-29-2015, 07:22 PM   #24
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That would make sense. Certainly avoiding connections inside the trailer is a good thing, and would be even if it were not required by code.
I researched what was code for RV's because I couldn't believe the wiring and plumbing could meet it. I found out that, at this moment, there is no 'code' for RVs, they were considered short term use and manufacturers lobbied against it.

There are US DOT regulations regarding road safety like lighting, I'd guess they cover propane to some extent.
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Old 11-29-2015, 07:42 PM   #25
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I researched what was code for RV's because I couldn't believe the wiring and plumbing could meet it. I.
I know what you mean. The first time I became aware of the vast differences between, say residential wiring codes vrs. RV "code" was when I looked in the closet of my Scamp and saw how the incoming plug wiring joined the trailer wiring. A bunch of Marette twist connectors in a jumble on the floor.

The thought of loose objects sitting on this mess of wires or bouncing on to it was a bit of shock. Glad to see Escape protects those connections with a box.

I tried a similar heater in a boat once. Even sitting below a cracked open hatch it still caused too much condensation for my liking. Used it once then someone got a steal of a deal at my garage sale.

If had a little more room on the bathroom wall near the dinette I'd love to put in a diesel Dickinson cabin heater. Tons of silent heat and a cheery flame to boot.

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Old 11-29-2015, 08:55 PM   #26
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One of the extra credit questions on an electrical exam I gave for apprentices was
"How do you say "Scotchlok" in Canadian " No one ever answered the question correctly !!
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Old 11-29-2015, 10:20 PM   #27
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Gas Line for indoor propane heater

I have used these heater inside campers on the odd occasion but even with a fair bit of ventilation found they produced to much condensation.
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Old 11-29-2015, 10:47 PM   #28
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I researched what was code for RV's because I couldn't believe the wiring and plumbing could meet it. I found out that, at this moment, there is no 'code' for RVs, they were considered short term use and manufacturers lobbied against it.
This is just not true, baglo even posted a photo of the CSA decal that shows that the trailer meets the CSA-Z240 RV code for plumbing and electrical. You must have missed that. With the talks I have had with Reace regarding it, he will not do anything that does not comply with the requirements.

Google this code, and you will find out more, though you cannot obtain a copy without purchasing it for $100, but that is cheap compared to what I pay for a copy of the Alberta Building Codes.

Case in point, I wanted to install my own stove, but Escape has to either have the stove (any stove) connected to the gas supply before I take possession, or not run the line at all. I am going to make certain he has the stove to temporarily install.
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Yes, they have requirements and they have to submit plans, pay a bunch of money and have what they are doing approved, such as for a furnace and where it is installed.
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Old 11-30-2015, 12:12 AM   #30
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CSA 'certifies' that whatever meets certain codes and standards. My point is there is no US Fed or State code regarding electrical or plumbing design and installation in RVs.

CSA is voluntary: (go to there website for more)
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CSA Group is a total solutions global provider of North American marks and can help you access the international marks you need to sell your product around the world. You can display CSA North American marks on your products with confidence, knowing that CSA marks are widely accepted and recognized by many government and code officials, regulatory and regulation bodies like the SCC and OSHA, leading retailers and authorities having jurisdiction (AHJ).

It is not a mandatory government 'code' that is 'enforced'. ETI tries to meet the spirit of CSA but you can tell by their sloppy work that no one is inspecting it.
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