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Old 12-05-2014, 09:03 PM   #11
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Jon, are there 2 legs off the 150A fuse? one going via 0awg and your added switch to the inverter and another of #6 to the converter via the breaker and the original switch?

Good idea to replace the original to the converter with #6.
The positive #0 wire goes to the 200 amp switch. The input of the switch is where I connected the #6 wire to the converter. The output goes to the inverter. The negative goes from the batteries through a shunt for my TriMetric 2025, then on to the inverter, where the negative #6 wire to the converter is connected.

I'd post a wiring diagram, but while I have a pencil version, I never bothered to CAD one...
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Old 12-06-2014, 06:04 AM   #12
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Thanks all, appreciate the help.
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Old 08-14-2015, 02:29 PM   #13
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Im having trouble with the wiring of my Xantrex C35 charge controller. I thought it would be simple, but according to the installation diagram I need a shunt and negative bus, PVGFP, and several disconnects. I also have the remote digital monitor that attaches to the controller. I would like to have a separate disconnect for the controller, but do I really need all these other components?
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I don't see the shunt in your picture but if your remote panel displays Amps in or out you might need a shunt, like the trimetric.

The PVGFP thing is a lightning protector(photo voltaic ground fault protector). I don't know if you would expect to need one of these with a trailer mounted solar cell. You would need one if the solar cell was mounted on the roof of a house.

The negative bus is just a common point for connecting all of the negative leads together. A nut and bolt with all of the negative wires clamped by it is a 'bus'
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I don't see the shunt in your picture but if your remote panel displays Amps in or out you might need a shunt, like the trimetric.

The PVGFP thing is a lightning protector(photo voltaic ground fault protector). I don't know if you would expect to need one of these with a trailer mounted solar cell. You would need one if the solar cell was mounted on the roof of a house.

The negative bus is just a common point for connecting all of the negative leads together. A nut and bolt with all of the negative wires clamped by it is a 'bus'
The remote display connects to the charge controller with a communication cable. So, there is no way to wire a shunt between the controller and the meter. I have a 10' cable (10awg) that would connect the solar panel to the charge controller. The controller will be mounted near the batteries with no more than a few feet of 8awg wire. Would the controller measure the battery output accurately without a shunt?
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I believe you will need all those components. The shunt is necessary to measure and obtain readings for the digital monitor. There are two sizes, I would expect you will want the 500 amp version. About $25.

The negative bus is simply the wire(s) you will use between the controller and battery with the shunt connected in line. Here the gauge is critical, I used an 8 gauge wire, it should be kept to the shortest length possible but unless you can crimp your own ends it may be best to look for finished lengths. Our local farm store had some choices as might an auto supply store. They maybe able to crimp ends for you as well. I use a hydraulic crimping tool for wire that size, it can not be done by hand.

The Photovoltaic Ground Fault Protection Assembly is designed to minimize the possibility of fire resulting from ground faults. I am not familar with this product from Xantrex, the maker of your controller. A more common design is to have some type of circuit protection (fuse or breaker) between the panel and the controller and again between the controller and battery. I have used an automotive style breaker.

On the same circuits that have protection as described above it is common to have disconnects. In the same locations and on the same circuits will allow you to kill the power from the PV panel during maintenance and to kill the power to the controller when not in use.

On the photo from left to right: dual 6 volt batteries, 500 amp shunt, two kill switches, not visible on the underside are two automotive breakers (I believe 30 amp) and finally the controller. There are four wires coming into the controller, a pair from the PV panel and a pair going to the battery. Also on the battery are fused wires connecting to the Trimetric TM-2025-RV Battery Monitor System.

Wire gauge is critical in such an install. My Blue Sky controller said it would work with 8 gauge, wrong. I had to trim some strands out of the 8 gauge to make it fit into the controller. For the next segment of wire I was able to go to 6 gauge. You can mix gauges to reduce resistance.
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The remote display connects to the charge controller with a communication cable. So, there is no way to wire a shunt between the controller and the meter. I have a 10' cable (10awg) that would connect the solar panel to the charge controller. The controller will be mounted near the batteries with no more than a few feet of 8awg wire. Would the controller measure the battery output accurately without a shunt?
I don't think your controller measures the Amps out of your batterys, it just measures the Amps into your batteries from the solar panel. So I'm still not seeing a shunt or a need for one. The Xantrex is pretty heavy duty and can be used for a number of functions. I find the manual not too friendly for your use.
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I don't think your controller measures the Amps out of your batterys, it just measures the Amps into your batteries from the solar panel. So I'm still not seeing a shunt or a need for one. The Xantrex is pretty heavy duty and can be used for a number of functions. I find the manual not too friendly for your use.

The description for the remote display:

LCD Digital Display (Optional)
CM, CMR/50, CMR/100-A back-lit meter which continuously displays: battery voltage, DC amperage, cumulative amp hours and amp hours since last reset. CM mounts on front of C Series, C35, C40 and C60, charge controllers. The remote meters CMR/50 and CMR/100 use simple telephone type plug-in connectors. 50 ft. (15 m) or 100 ft. (30 m) cable included. If used with a wind turbine, this will only measure voltage.
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Old 08-14-2015, 04:31 PM   #19
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Schneider Electric Xantrex CM 50' Remote Meter for Xantrex C Series - Wholesale Solar

Says, 'Shows Battery voltage and incoming pv amps'

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http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&...UUW-qwezalDUkQ
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Interesting. So a shunt is not needed for incoming amps from the PV? Does "cumulative amp hours" refer to battery capacity?
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