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Old 08-02-2015, 10:42 AM   #21
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Seef, it is loud. We turn it on only to cool off the inside of the trailer. For that, AC has no substitute. The insulation package and cooler night time temperatures do the rest.

Now, of course, I tell you this with one disclaimer: Have never overnighted in Oklahoma or Arizona when it is 90°F at 2100 hours.
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Old 08-02-2015, 11:29 AM   #22
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Hi Carl- yeah, in FLA or East Coast or Deep South in general the humidity more than the heat is the drag. When we lived in Alabama, we didn't have A/C. When we moved to Cocoa Beach we did and I can remember not being able to go to sleep in the summer until I could hear that compressor turn on.

It's more of a regional thing: more Canadians opt out of A/C it seems than do people in America- and it's a lifestyle thing: if you don't camp with hookups or want to drag along a generator then why get it when it can be installed later- unless you want to go into the whole digital thermostat conversation(which is the only A/C unit ETI sells now for $1,100).

We prefer the extra headroom as well(in a 21 w/6'5"), so in a 17B which is 6'2" it makes even more difference. When we sold our 17B it did take longer, but as the say in real estate- "it only takes one buyer".

I admit it is a fine option for many, and for us cost had nothing to do with it. My original response was to someone who primarily boondocks and is from CO. It feels like others are saying in a blanket statement for A/C that it is a mistake not to get it. I just disagree. Curious, because for just about anything else folks seem to say build it for your camping style. Why is this so different?
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Old 08-02-2015, 11:32 AM   #23
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I have always been a firm believer of having things installed in the original build. Doing it later usually involves extra work and expense and tearing things out that you don't want to tear out. And as for resale value, even though we plan to keep things for a long time, situations change. Also, it's not so much the heat but the humidity that makes things so uncomfortable here in the center and southern part of the US, so I will take the noise any day. And your neighbor probably won't hear it because his is making a lot of noise too. But I have to agree with Rossue, it is a regional thing. Loren
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Old 08-02-2015, 12:54 PM   #24
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I have always been a firm believer of having things installed in the original build. Doing it later usually involves extra work and expense and tearing things out that you don't want to tear out. And as for resale value, even though we plan to keep things for a long time, situations change. Also, it's not so much the heat but the humidity that makes things so uncomfortable here in the center and southern part of the US, so I will take the noise any day. And your neighbor probably won't hear it because his is making a lot of noise too. But I have to agree with Rossue, it is a regional thing. Loren
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Old 08-02-2015, 01:27 PM   #25
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Both the refrigerator and the air conditioner as well as the stove and furnace have warranties, all of which can be extended beyond the normal period for a nominal fee. If it does not break within the first couple of years of use, you are probably good.
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Old 08-02-2015, 01:46 PM   #26
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I admit it is a fine option for many, and for us cost had nothing to do with it. My original response was to someone who primarily boondocks and is from CO. It feels like others are saying in a blanket statement for A/C that it is a mistake not to get it. I just disagree. Curious, because for just about anything else folks seem to say build it for your camping style. Why is this so different?
To me, I guess it is different because of my approach to RVing. If I were Canadian (my maternal grandparents came from Quebec to Massachusetts), I would install A/C because I want to see it all and be able to go everywhere, IN COMFORT. Maybe I camp mainly close to home in a place like Banff or Whistler. But what happens when I want to take that occasional or once in a lifetime trip to the Grand Canyon, Key West, or Mexico. Or even the day there is a heat wave in August in BC. While A/C is a necessity for me (summer puts the Flaw in Florida!), I just find it shall I say confusing why anyone would shell out the funds to purchase as nice a trailer as the Escape is and then scrimp by eliminating A/C. On our recent 7 week trip to pick up our 5.0TA, after attending the rally in Osoyoos we meandered across the northern U.S. and reentered Canada at Grand Portage, visiting my wife's cousin in Parry Sound and Alf & Mary Anne in St. Thomas. Then headed south and stopped for the night in Louisville. It was the first time since our orientation at ETI the A/C was turned on and I was very happy (ecstatic may be a more appropriate word) that it worked. So to me, the difference when A/C is the issue at hand is the ability to go to more locations.
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Old 08-02-2015, 02:03 PM   #27
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I just find it shall I say confusing why anyone would shell out the funds to purchase as nice a trailer as the Escape is and then scrimp by eliminating A/C.
I'm a little offended by the adamant view taken by some that not ordering an A/C is a big mistake or scrimping.

My Scamp came with a new in box, never opened, roof mount Polar Cub A/C. I'm not crazy about roof mount A/C's at the best of times. I've used several RV's with them and they've been noisy and annoying. I also don't like the extra height and drag. I ended up selling the A/C because I really didn't want it.

If, in several years I decide to spend a long time in the deep South or Mexico then maybe I'd change my mind. In the meantime I'm happy with my part-time option. Since I have Myron's excellent write-up I know that it wouldn't be a big deal to do. And if I did, the unit would be brand new, not several years old and exposed to the elements.

So lets remember we all have different views on what's a need or a want and keep the comments more related to factual elements.

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If memory serves me right and sometimes it doesn't, when we were in Texas looking at the Casita's three years ago, they offered the air conditioner as standard equipment and the furnace as optional. At ETI, the furnace was standard and the air conditioner optional, so I kind of had to chuckle over this. I just checked the Casita site and now both the air conditioner and furnace are optional. It's really where you are and what you want. No correct answer here, just a matter of opinion. Loren
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So lets remember we all have different views on what's a need or a want and keep the comments more related to factual elements.

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So true. However, it may not be a bad idea to have it a/c ready in the event of a sale, if that is a realistic possibility. For me personally, I was not going to get one as I had only coastal camping in mind, then I figured, "oh well, just in case". On my first trip out, (other than bringing her home from Chilliwack), I went to the nearby Sierra "foothills" and the weather was 106 degrees. Needless to say, for me, that was the right decision.
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Both the refrigerator and the air conditioner as well as the stove and furnace have warranties, all of which can be extended beyond the normal period for a nominal fee. If it does not break within the first couple of years of use, you are probably good.
Probably, but not necessarily.

We're on our third refrigerator (yes, Dometic, but not a model used by Escape) in our motorhome, and it stopped cooling last week. This same unit has two roof air conditioners, and their blower wheels are cracking on a five-year-old RV; that would be a problem with any brand, but the manufacturer stopped making them soon after we bought ours and now no parts are available. We have an extended warranty on the whole RV, and it looks like they're going to be spending $4000 on these appliances for us this year!

No, this isn't an Escape, but these parts are all comparable, regardless of RV brand.
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