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Old 04-02-2013, 12:47 PM   #41
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I was at the factory last week and noted a couple of trailers on the line that had the underneath insulation and it was painted black. I don't know if that's standard or not but it does show that they will paint it black if you want.

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Old 04-02-2013, 01:00 PM   #42
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We very rarely camp where AC power is available but if we do the pads will make the trailer more versatile.

I mainly got the heat pad so that if we come home and the grey water or sewage at partially or totally frozen, we can plug the trailer in and defrost it before emptying the tanks.

I'm not worried about fresh water tank because it is inside and can be kept worm with 12V power and the propane furnace. On cold nights I do open the door to the storage beneath the queen bed to help keep that area warmer.
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Old 04-02-2013, 04:05 PM   #43
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I believe the heating pads are 110 volt.
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Old 04-02-2013, 04:24 PM   #44
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The heat pads are 12v according to Escape's website. But the draw is such that you want to be hooked up to electric to keep the battery from becoming discharged. They are thermostatically controlled, on/off at 32 degrees. Switch is located under the bed by the pump. I installed a led light to remind me when they are activated. The pads are on the fresh and grey tanks.
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Old 04-02-2013, 07:05 PM   #45
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Wow I just looked Jim your right they are 12 volt, I bet those will draw your battery down quick
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:34 PM   #46
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I doubt that the choice of 12V power for tank heating pads was made to allow operation on battery power. With 12V, you can run them from the tug while moving, and from the converter while camped with power supplied. I agree that run time on any reasonable battery will be short.
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Old 04-02-2013, 09:41 PM   #47
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I've been looking at outgassing today -- it would seem that the fiberglass trailers would have far less formaldahyde just because there is so much less wood. And it's even possible to buy plywood that doesn't have formaldahyde. It's something we'd talk about when we reserve a trailer.

I'm wondering if anyone has chosen not to get any extra insulation or thermal windows and how that has worked out.

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Old 04-02-2013, 09:47 PM   #48
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We picked-up our 15B in December, 2012 with the underfloor insulation installed. It is black in color.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:37 AM   #49
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Actually that's a good idea. Just turn on the pads on when you are driving home and maybe the tanks will thaw enough to empty....
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:04 AM   #50
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I think it will be interesting to see how the 2 part spray foam insulation holds up over time. A main problem might be UV degradation, but that shouldn't be a huge problem with it on the mostly shaded underbelly. On the advice of an energy audit on our house (a geodesic dome) we used it in our small attic space, and it is a job I would never want to do again! But it does an amazing job of sealing and insulating.
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