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Old 12-24-2017, 05:52 PM   #1
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Jon's Escape 21 Modifications

Some of you have found my Escape 17 modification page useful, so I'm leaving it up even though I no longer have the trailer.

I have started a new page for the 21. I expect I will be adding to it.
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Old 12-24-2017, 06:11 PM   #2
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Thank you Jon. I appreciate you sharing those mods as well as your build photos that I just saw for the first time today. I hope you don't mind if I steal some of your ideas/modifications.
Merry Christmas.
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Old 12-24-2017, 06:14 PM   #3
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Thank you Jon. I appreciate you sharing those mods as well as your build photos that I just saw for the first time today. I hope you don't mind if I steal some of your ideas/modifications.
Merry Christmas.
Borrow away! (Hate to call it stealing). You can see them at Quartzsite at the February rally...
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I wish I could go to Quartzite. It's only 4 hours from my house but I won't have my new Escape until May 24. We will be at the Escape Rally in May.
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Jon, thanks for the links to your mods. I am interested in the Tri-Metric meter. Can you verify if this is the correct shunt you used on your rig?



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I wish I could go to Quartzite. It's only 4 hours from my house but I won't have my new Escape until May 24. We will be at the Escape Rally in May.
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You don’t need your Trailer to come to Quartzsite. We’ve had many come in tents, sleep in their trucks, etc over the years. All are welcome in any shape or form.
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Jon, thanks for the links to your mods. I am interested in the Tri-Metric meter. Can you verify if this is the correct shunt you used on your rig?

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Fred: I used a lower current shunt in our '19 with the Trimetric. I think I used a 100A shunt rather than the 500A. Better resolution and 100A should cover everything in an Escape. There is a setting in the Trimetric for the lower current shunt.

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Fred: I used a lower current shunt in our '19 with the Trimetric. I think I used a 100A shunt rather than the 500A. Better resolution and 100A should cover everything in an Escape. There is a setting in the Trimetric for the lower current shunt.

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You can use either the 100 amp or 500 amp shunt (during the set up you choose the shunt size). I chose the 500 amp because the microwave draws 95 amps, which is close to the 100 amp limit. I haven't felt limited by the lower resolution.
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You can use either the 100 amp or 500 amp shunt (during the set up you choose the shunt size). I chose the 500 amp because the microwave draws 95 amps, which is close to the 100 amp limit. I haven't felt limited by the lower resolution.


Thanks currinh and Jon for your responses. Looks like I have to do more research on “lower/higher resolution”. I am not sure what that is all about, but it is fun learning!


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Thanks currinh and Jon for your responses. Looks like I have to do more research on “lower/higher resolution”. I am not sure what that is all about, but it is fun learning!


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Here is the shunt info from the on line technical manual. Note the suggested amperage limit for the 100 amp shunt is 70 amps (less than the microwave draws).

"A shunt (an accurate, very low resistance power resistor) must be wired into your battery system as described in section B of these instructions, shown on the wiring diagram page 8. The “amps” shown on the meter measures whatever current passes through this shunt—so it must be wired in series with the wire which carries the current to be measured. The shunt is almost always installed between the negative terminal of the battery and all the loads and charging sources (see Figure 1 on page 7.) It is located near the batteries, since the high current carrying wires must be kept short.

The TriMetric meter measures the current ("amps") by measuring the very small voltage drop across this shunt. The voltage drop across the shunt is very small—with the 500A/50mV shunt it is equivalent to only a 2 foot additional length of 0000 gauge cable in series with your main wiring.

TriMetric maximum current capability: The TriMetric meter itself will measure current (amps) properly up to 999 amps with a 500A/50 mV shunt. With the 100A/100 mV shunt the meter measurements will be OK up to 300 amps. However, at these currents the shunt is going to get too hot. The typical 500A/50mV shunt will be OK up to 420 amps. The typical 100A/100A shunt will be OK up to 70 amps maximum. These are charging or discharging amps values, NOT amp hour numbers.

MORE SHUNT INFORMATION
There are two choices of shunt, depending on your system size: the 500A/50mV or 100A/100mV size. Most systems
will use the 500 amp-50 mV shunt. This gives an “ampere” resolution as low as 0.1 amp and will read to a steady 430 amps before the shunt overheats. For smaller systems (with 12V systems with inverter 800 watts or less) you could use a 100A/100mV shunt It has the advantage that you can read currents as low as 0.01 amp, however has the 70 amp maximum amp limitation noted above. The correct shunt must be programmed as described in section C2 on page 6

Technical note: It is only the shunt ratio between amps to mV. which is important to the meter--so, for example, a 200 amp- 200 mV. shunt can, from the meter's point of view, be considered equivalent to the 100 amp-100 mV shunt. The implication, when a shunt is rated at "100 amps-100 mV." is that it may safely carry up to 100 amps maximum--however in many cases so- called "100 amp" shunts will not carry this much without overheating. For more information see application note on the Bogart Engineering web site under SUPPORT/APPLICATION NOTES entitled: Shunt Info."
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