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Old 03-05-2017, 09:59 PM   #1
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Locks & Chains

For me the use of a good lock and chain is only as a preventive measure, with the hope that it will deter a thief should he attempt to steal our trailer while we are site seeing or in town shopping. To be more specific the chain and lock I chose (there a better chains at three times the coast { PEWAG} and thousand dollar locks ) is to defend against blunt force attacks, freezing, lock picking, drilling and bolt cutters in adverse conditions. With the advent of today's technological advances in grinders and cutoff wheels there is no lock, chain, cable, hardened steel, alloy, or clamp device , immobilizer ect. that well stop a determined well equipped thief. I will state that the chain I bought can be cut with a high quality bolt cutter under ideal conditions and the lock can be picked by a master lock picker under ideal conditions.
With that said my first thought was to try and make the condition as adverse as possible, hence the chain and lock are tight to tire and high off the floor making it harder to leverage a bolt cutter on the ground and if the grinder slips possible flat tire. Second the chain I bought has a unique feature, the end links are different sizes allowing the smaller link to slide though the larger link creating less room for the bolt cutter head to bite on or grind, also understand that the chain and lock need to be cut twice in order to take off. If the thief takes the tire off he is either going to have to cut the tire and rim in half or he will be dragging the tire under the trailer.
Other considerations where cost, size, weight and storage space. I know my choice is not for everyone and defiantly was some disadvantages and yes I have full replacement value insurance so no problems.I have attached some pics and some interesting vids for those so inclined safe travels and have fun.
Lastly There is a well-known cartoon where two guys see a bear and one guy starts putting on running shoes. The other guy looks at him and says, " Why are you doing that? You'll never outrun that bear." And the other guy says, " I don't have to outrun that bear, I only have to outrun you."
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Old 03-05-2017, 10:03 PM   #2
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Old 03-05-2017, 11:54 PM   #3
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The Stanley lock you have is one I was thinking of purchasing for my storage unit. Hadn't considered the lock/chain application you show for the wheel. Is the chain around the wheel and the axle?
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Old 03-05-2017, 11:58 PM   #4
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Hi Rick, Yes chain is wrapped around axle.
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Hi Rick, Yes chain is wrapped around axle.
Could you share what size chain and info on lock . Thankyou for the information you already showed . Pat
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Old 03-06-2017, 12:10 AM   #6
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Hi: freespirit... Looks like he got "Clamped" for illegally parking in a "Towaway zone"!!! Alf
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LOL, thats a good one Alf.
freespirit, no I did not get "Clamped" I wrap a chain around my axle and tire is all.

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Hi: freespirit... Looks like he got "Clamped" for illegally parking in a "Towaway zone"!!! Alf
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LOL, thats a good one Alf.
freespirit, no I did not get "Clamped" I wrap a chain around my axle and tire is all.

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Thankyou for the information and fast response . One more question ? You said you wrapped around your axle also . Do you use 2 locks or it all is locked with one ? Pat
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The chain is 6' long I wrap it around the axle twice and use one lock.
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The chain is 6' long I wrap it around the axle twice and use one lock.
That is what I thought but wanted to make sure . This solution is as good as any . Thankyou again . Pat
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With tandem axle you just need to go through the rims of both wheels. No need to go over the axle, especially if it is harder to do.

I used to do this with a construction dump trailer when it was new, but my guys who complained about it being a pain to deal with somehow lost the key. That was many years ago (10+), and I still have it.

I gotta admit to being a non-worrier. I just make sure I have adequate insurance. Am thinking about adding locks to the X-Chocks though.
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With tandem axle you just need to go through the rims of both wheels. No need to go over the axle, especially if it is harder to do.

I used to do this with a construction dump trailer when it was new, but my guys who complained about it being a pain to deal with somehow lost the key. That was many years ago (10+), and I still have it.

I gotta admit to being a non-worrier. I just make sure I have adequate insurance. Am thinking about adding locks to the X-Chocks though.
Hi: Jim Bennett... "Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep". Alf
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Hi: Jim Bennett... "Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep". Alf
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I hear is "Starts when you're always afraid".
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I hear is "Starts when you're always afraid".
Hi: Jim Bennett... "Step out of line the mod comes and takes you away". Alf
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Hi Jim, You are right it is defiantly not for every one. I have no problem putting it on and only takes a couple of minutes, I use 12" long peace of #12 electrical wire to help feed though the back of rim. I do not chain up all the time there are many variables, but when we are in a remote areas with no one around for miles you bet the chains come out. As far as Bear being stolen it not all about the stealing part (We have full value replacement insurance) but are camping/ vacation would be ruined and sometimes these are months if not years in the planning and anticipation, that truly would be a sad day for us.. I must admit My wife and I have developed a peculiar affection for Bear ( other trailers where just "The Trailer"). Not sure if it the molded fiberglass part or the fact that so much effort and planning was put into Bear or if its the remarkable design and craftmanship.
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Hi: Jim Bennett... "Step out of line the mod comes and takes you away". Alf
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LOL, Elf where does all this come from, are you like a stand up comedian?
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I have a removable jack since I use Jack-E-Up for tailgate clearance. Why not just leave your jack off, it would take at least 3-4 people to raise or lower your 4-500lb tongue manually, something most thieves do not have, friends.
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*looks around for one of these big bad mods* LOL
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LOL, Elf where does all this come from, are you like a stand up comedian?
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LOL, Elf where does all this come from, are you like a stand up comedian?
Hi: Tin... Been called worse!!! Actually I prefer to sit down.
There's always someone who covets what you have and you just have to grin and bare it!!! Alf
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Thanks Elf I will try and remember that. Funny thing I never knew was just how easy master locks are to pick. there are videos of master lock being picked with just about anything even a chicken bone and I have at least ten of them.
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Hi: Tin... Been called worse!!! Actually I prefer to sit down.
There's always someone who covets what you have and you just have to grin and bare it!!! Alf
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Some of us prefer that you not bare it , Alf.....
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