Looking for a new surge protector

[wetzk]

Originally Posted by Red Dog

I may just go ahead and order the hardwire version. But, I imagine that the reason for the bypass would be because of the internal components failing, and still allowing you to use the unit in surge protection mode, rather than ignoring the codes indicating faulty wiring. What do you think?

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Or if you use an inverter generator and do not use a plug to tie the neutral and ground together.

[sclifrickson]

Easy to make a neutral bonding plug, but you can buy them too eg https://www.microair.net/products/ge...12272654155860


Either way will allow you to leave your EMS on and fully functional. I mean, you probably don’t need it (the EMS)...but if you ever do, then a bonding plug is a super cheap part compared to anything else getting fried in your trailer. Even if your generator is “clean”, what if you turn off the EMS, then forget to turn it back on, then that happens to be the one time you plug into a wonky shore connection?

[steve dunham]

My EMS is permanently set to bypass . So far it has functioned well in that mode of operation.

[sclifrickson]

Originally Posted by steve dunham

My EMS is permanently set to bypass . So far it has functioned well in that mode of operation.

Likewise, I pay for homeowners insurance, but it covers derelict land down by the river, not where I live. So far, no claims necessary for my house, so all is well.

Too sarcastic?

[EdColorado]

An EMS unit also checks the incoming voltage from the source. Shore power or generator.

A voltage that is either too high or too low can harm electrical/electronic equipment. A faulty voltage regulator in a generator can cause such an event.

A $5 , do it yourself, part can prevent that.

[rubicon327]

Originally Posted by EdColorado

An EMS unit also checks the incoming voltage from the source. Shore power or generator.

A voltage that is either too high or too low can harm electrical/electronic equipment. A faulty voltage regulator in a generator can cause such an event.

A $5 , do it yourself, part can prevent that.

Another concern is the generator running out of gas under load. I assume the EMS will catch the low voltage and shut down the power.

[Red Dog]

Progressive Industries EMS-HW30C on order. Will arrive Monday! Thanks everyone for all your input.

Fred M.

[rubicon327]

Originally Posted by Red Dog

Progressive Industries EMS-HW30C on order. Will arrive Monday! Thanks everyone for all your input.

Fred M.

Great choice Fred.

[rubicon327]

Originally Posted by Red Dog

Hi Dave,

Well, I was about to pull the trigger on the Progressive Industries portable EMS unit until I saw your comment about the HW30C maintaining the surge suppression function active even though you are in bypass mode. I really like that!

So, gonna research this just a bit longer.

Fred M.

Hi Fred: Yes, this is a feature that I didn’t even realize it had until I read the manual. You won’t be dissappointed in this unit. It is always there doing it’s job. As was also mentioned it is convenient to read amps on the remote display inside the trailer. This is especially helpful for power management if you happen to ever be on a 15 or 20 amp circuit. For example, if you ever are visiting someone’s house and they let you plug in or are in an RV overflow area that may not have 30A circuits.

[tdf-texas]

Originally Posted by Red Dog

Progressive Industries EMS-HW30C on order. Will arrive Monday! Thanks everyone for all your input.

Fred M.

Here's a pic of the HW30C that Escape installed in my 21. Since you have the same power cable as I do, it might serve as a go by. Escape screwed a plywood block to the floor and then attached the HW30C to the plywood.

The remote monitor is mounted down low on the right side of the dinette area. If I had a chance for a do-over, I would mount it up above the fridge next to the tank monitor.

[Jim Bennett]

Originally Posted by tdf-texas

The remote monitor is mounted down low on the right side of the dinette area. If I had a chance for a do-over, I would mount it up above the fridge next to the tank monitor.

I was just thinking the other day when I brought my trailer home to prep for our trip south in a few days when I read it after plugging in, that why the heck did I not just put it up there when I had the fridge out. Still might do it someday, though not really a pressing thing.

[Vermilye]

Originally Posted by Jim Bennett

I was just thinking the other day when I brought my trailer home to prep for our trip south in a few days when I read it after plugging in, that why the heck did I not just put it up there when I had the fridge out. Still might do it someday, though not really a pressing thing.

While I'd rather have the remote switch for the inverter up where it is easy to push, I prefer the remote for the EMS down by the floor. The flashing red digits would be annoying up where they were more visible, and I only check the readout when first hooking up or want to check how much an appliance is drawing.

[EdColorado]

Originally Posted by Vermilye

While I'd rather have the remote switch for the inverter up where it is easy to push, I prefer the remote for the EMS down by the floor. The flashing red digits would be annoying up where they were more visible, and I only check the readout when first hooking up or want to check how much an appliance is drawing.

Same here.
On my last RV I mounted the remote right next to the entry door. That way when I hooked up, I didn’t even have to step inside to see the hoped for E=0.

Would there be a more visible location on some floor plans?
Ed

[Jim Bennett]

Originally Posted by Vermilye

While I'd rather have the remote switch for the inverter up where it is easy to push, I prefer the remote for the EMS down by the floor. The flashing red digits would be annoying up where they were more visible, and I only check the readout when first hooking up or want to check how much an appliance is drawing.

Very true about the lights, especially given they flash. You are right, I too really only check it after hooking up. If in a place like above the fridge, maybe a wee disconnect for the display could be connected? But like I said, not a huge deal anyway, just always looking for something to be a bit better.

[rubicon327]

Fred: Keep in mind when installing on of these yourself the standard time delay from the factory for power is 15 seconds. I believe Escape pulls the jumper on the board which increases it to 136 seconds. I’m ok with the 15 seconds because my mini-split A/C has an internal time delay safety. The standard Dometic A/C may not have this. You may need to pull the jumper for the best protection of your A/C on a restart.

[Chotch]

Originally Posted by Jim Bennett

I was just thinking the other day when I brought my trailer home to prep for our trip south in a few days when I read it after plugging in, that why the heck did I not just put it up there when I had the fridge out. Still might do it someday, though not really a pressing thing.

I hate that 5 minutes after I finish a project I come up with a Why didn’t I do that?
Guess I’m not alone😎

[EdColorado]

Originally Posted by Chotch

I hate that 5 minutes after I finish a project I come up with a Why didn’t I do that?
Guess I’m not alone😎

I just e-mailed ETI and asked if they could mount the monitor on my 21 someplace where I did not have to crawl under the table to see it. By the fridge?

We'll see what they say.

Ed

[cpaharley2008]

I'm betting that they will say it stays where it is , I'm finding that Escape is more or less standardizing their trailers with outlet locations, light location and so on. The displays are where they are as shown in the standard layouts.

[Greg A]

Originally Posted by EdColorado

Same here.
On my last RV I mounted the remote right next to the entry door. That way when I hooked up, I didn’t even have to step inside to see the hoped for E=0.

Would there be a more visible location on some floor plans?
Ed

The 19 is probably the lucky one on the location on the drivers side bench. Easy to see it from outside the door after hooking up.

[Red Dog]

Originally Posted by Jim Bennett

I was just thinking the other day when I brought my trailer home to prep for our trip south in a few days when I read it after plugging in, that why the heck did I not just put it up there when I had the fridge out. Still might do it someday, though not really a pressing thing.

Jim and Tom (TDF-TEXAS),

Can you mount the monitor above the fridge, use the cable that is provided and still maintain the 13’ distance limitation?
(See excerpt from the installation manual)



Fred M.