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Old 06-28-2016, 09:46 PM   #11
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Yes, I agree . For the 19 I'm switching to a wall mounted electric heater
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or this one Econo-Heat 400-Watt Wall Panel Convection Heater-603 - The Home Depot
Where would you mount something so big? I can't find specs on the first one, but that last one is 2' square.
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I like that Broan Carl installed, but I likely will go with a toespace heater if I do install one. I am going to at least rough-in for the heater and wall-mount thermostat.

I have looked at just about every one out there, and the Myson Whispa E50 is my favourite, with heat selection controls on the front, and very quiet during operation.

Myson E50 Electric Kickspace Heater. Myson Whispa E50 Floor Toe Kick
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On the bathroom wall facing the door, I'm having it reinforced. In addition I'm hoping to tap into the furnace and direct some heat into the bath thru the wall next to the closet
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I like that Broan Carl installed, but I likely will go with a toespace heater if I do install one. I am going to at least rough-in for the heater and wall-mount thermostat.

I have looked at just about every one out there, and the Myson Whispa E50 is my favourite, with heat selection controls on the front, and very quiet during operation.

Myson E50 Electric Kickspace Heater. Myson Whispa E50 Floor Toe Kick
That would be a nice setup, especially with a wall mounted stat.
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The original receptacle is now a timer that controls the heater. The issue in the code is due to electric cords plugged into the receptacle. I am going to swap the timer for a line voltage thermostat to get better control of the temperatures. After extended running, the floor doesn't really get warm. The directions do call out 6 inches, but that is not an issue in practice.

Probably the biggest concern is letting bedding hang down in front of the heater. We use a Tavasak and that stays in check pretty well. I am not sure how sheets and blankets do. In general I like the setup much better than a cube heater that can get pointed in any direction sitting on the floor. For that matter items tend to get stashed in front of the furnace under the dinette if you are not careful. Common sense must be used with any heat source.
One of the reasons for the 6 " clearance is that subjecting combustible materials to long periods of heat lowers the combustion point of the material.
This issue became apparent when recessed lighting fixtures were causing ceiling joists to ignite. Also be aware that line voltage thermostats are notoriously bad for holding setpoint
They do make a line voltage stat with anticipation which is far more accurate .
Being a licensed master electrician , I could not pick and choose which code rules I wished to follow. You may do as you wish.
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Old 11-13-2016, 06:34 PM   #16
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The original receptacle is now a timer that controls the heater. The issue in the code is due to electric cords plugged into the receptacle. I am going to swap the timer for a line voltage thermostat to get better control of the temperatures. After extended running, the floor doesn't really get warm. The directions do call out 6 inches, but that is not an issue in practice.

Probably the biggest concern is letting bedding hang down in front of the heater. We use a Tavasak and that stays in check pretty well. I am not sure how sheets and blankets do. In general I like the setup much better than a cube heater that can get pointed in any direction sitting on the floor. For that matter items tend to get stashed in front of the furnace under the dinette if you are not careful. Common sense must be used with any heat source.
The line voltage thermostat was too close to the heater and did not work well. I recently installed a relay and 24 volt thermostat. The relay has a built in 24 volt transformer and connects directly to the regular wall stat. The block was small enough to allow it to be installed on a spare knockout of the Broan heater. Works very well.

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The line voltage thermostat was too close to the heater and did not work well. I recently installed a relay and 24 volt thermostat. The relay has a built in 24 volt transformer and connects directly to the regular wall stat. The block was small enough to allow it to be installed on a spare knockout of the Broan heater. Works very well.
Carl, could you not have used a baseboard thermostat like this instead. I do like the idea of the relay and using smaller wire to control the 21V thermostat though?



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Carl, what was wrong with the timer? I also notice your is mounted on the 45 degree vs blowing into the bath? Perhaps less of a blanket issue on the side? Anyway, I'm please with it in the dinette location, I just used a pilot light switch and let the heater thermostat control the on/off cycles. BTW, did you install a switch in the heater to control the heat output?
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Carl, could you not have used a baseboard thermostat like this instead. I do like the idea of the relay and using smaller wire to control the 21V thermostat though?



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Yes, that would work. This way I was able to leave the 120 volt wiring in place. The thermostat is up at bed level and should keep a more constant temperature. Only had to run a very small thermostat wire.
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Carl, what was wrong with the timer? I also notice your is mounted on the 45 degree vs blowing into the bath? Perhaps less of a blanket issue on the side? Anyway, I'm please with it in the dinette location, I just used a pilot light switch and let the heater thermostat control the on/off cycles. BTW, did you install a switch in the heater to control the heat output?
The timer worked fine. It seemed like I could never get the temperature right with the dial on the heater. I put the heater on the 45 because ETI put an access door on the face next to the bathroom. I did not install a switch. The thermostat has an on off. This is Rev 3. So far so good.
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