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Old 06-16-2016, 10:59 PM   #31
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But the poster only mentioned cell phones, tablets, laptops, and an outdoor fan, all of which can be charged or can run on DC.
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Old 06-16-2016, 11:04 PM   #32
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Right Karen, it was a roundabout answer to the fact that there is a hum with running an inverter. For those spending weeks or months travelling in a trailer it takes effort to eat right. An inverter gives one more options.
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Old 06-17-2016, 09:48 AM   #33
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I have the 1500W inverter and the only thing I've used it for is to run the microwave. So if you're not going to use a microwave or other high-current 120V appliance like a coffee maker, you might not need the inverter. The inverter does draw power when it's on even when nothing else is running and it makes noise, so there's that as well.

If my trailer were being built now I'd have three 12-volt outlets inside-- one at each end and one in the middle. I'd also have an exterior 12V outlet to run my laptop while sitting outside. That way I wouldn't be using the laptop's battery, and since Apple laptop batteries aren't replaceable, it would prolong the life of the laptop.
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Old 06-17-2016, 10:30 AM   #34
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We have four 12V outlets in the trailer at strategic locations. Sometimes with all of the device charging that we do, it seems that we could use one or two more. We didn't add any 120V outlets when the trailer was constructed, and I don't believe that we have even used any of the standard ones in the three years we have had the trailer, everything we use works off of the 12V outlets or off of propane (we don't even bring any 120V devices with us).
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Old 06-17-2016, 10:30 AM   #35
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Why a USB port rather than an AC plug with USB adaptor? Can USB adapters work with a 12V plug?
The AC plug with a built in USB port is only powered when the AC is powered. So for me I can't charge a cell phone using the usb cable unless my trailer is plugged into 'shore power' at a campsite.
The DC plugs, cigarette lighter things, run from the battery and have 12 volts all of the time. plugging a 12 volt cigarette lighter usb adaptor into it allows me to charge my cell phone any time. Cigarette lighter 12volt usb adapters are cheap $5 to $25.
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Old 06-17-2016, 10:36 AM   #36
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Having an inverter solves the problem of rarely used chargers. For example, I carry a battery powered drill, and an impact drill that I don't often use. Even if I could find a 12V charger for the batteries for them, it wouldn't be worth the cost. I only need to charge the batteries every 4 months or so, but the inverter does the trick. Since I often spend months at a time without hookups, waiting for a campground with a pedestal is not a viable option.

Another use is the rarely used 120V tools - for example, a soldering iron & a heat shrink gun. Both work well on my 1000 watt inverter, and while not often needed, when you do need them it is nice to be able to run them. And, last, but most important, it powers my 600 watt 5 cup drip coffee maker & 900 watt toaster!

I'm comfortable with a separate outlet for the inverter, but the whole house option would be more convent, particularly if I had a microwave.
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Old 06-17-2016, 11:28 AM   #37
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and since Apple laptop batteries aren't replaceable, it would prolong the life of the laptop.
Not sure where you got that information.

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Your battery is designed to retain up to 80% of its original capacity at 1000 complete charge cycles. The one-year warranty includes replacement coverage for a defective battery. Apple offers a battery replacement service for all MacBook, MacBook Air and MacBook Pro notebooks with built-in batteries.
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Old 06-17-2016, 03:10 PM   #38
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... I'd also have an exterior 12V outlet to run my laptop while sitting outside. That way I wouldn't be using the laptop's battery, and since Apple laptop batteries aren't replaceable, it would prolong the life of the laptop.
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Not sure where you got that information.

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Your battery is designed to retain up to 80% of its original capacity at 1000 complete charge cycles. The one-year warranty includes replacement coverage for a defective battery. Apple offers a battery replacement service for all MacBook, MacBook Air and MacBook Pro notebooks with built-in batteries.
There have been many generations of Apple laptops (we have two), and while all are inconvenient to service, the degree of difficulty of battery replacement varies. Some of those batteries are actually glued in, and many (most? all?) are not considered a user-replaceable part. Paying for Apple service plus the battery costs about one-sixth of a new laptop and may still make more sense than buying a new one; however, it is worth considering a possible effect on battery lifespan.

But it's true that Apple laptop batteries are generally replaceable.
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