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Old 12-19-2012, 06:38 AM   #101
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Jim, what are we seeing that is black in your cabinet in the last few pictures?
Hi: DonM... Looks like a toaster oven stored in there as well, or one of those fancy wine chillers. Alf
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:43 AM   #102
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Yes, it is my toaster over, which I'm thinking will be deep sixed, I think it has been used 4 times in the past 3 years and takes up a lot of "shoe" space. Each year I try to go thru and eliminate or add items I feel is needed, I guess due to the micro the toaster oven is not needed.
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Old 12-19-2012, 09:18 AM   #103
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Jim,

Looks like a very clean install and should keep the trailer nice and warm.

Just wondering for those of you that have an air conditioner, would a heat strip in the AC provide a similar amount of heat? Are there advantages to the stand alone heater versus the heat strip in the AC.

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Old 12-19-2012, 09:48 AM   #104
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I have the heat strip in the a/c, yes it takes the chill off, but you have to turn on the roof top unit and the fan blows across a 5200 btu electric element. Very noisy and it has no thermostat.
This new unit is thermostatically controlled and whisper quiet, you leave it on continuously and it works silently.
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Old 12-19-2012, 10:51 AM   #105
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I also have the heat strip, but as Jim says it is very noisy without great results, I have a small little electric space heater that is almost silent and puts out great heat, havn't used it in reallly cold weather yet but I probably would not bother with a heat strip again.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:59 AM   #106
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Dave: What's the make and model or your space heater? Sounds like it works well.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:03 PM   #107
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Jim, Dave,

Thanks for the information on the heat strip and a/c. Can I assume from your comments that the a/c is somewhat noisy when in use?

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Old 12-19-2012, 04:20 PM   #108
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Yes, the sound is equal to having the a/c on in the summer
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:29 PM   #109
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Hi Jim

I put one of these heaters in my 2005, 17B, see the post here, http://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f8...ater-1006.html I too put in a switch to toggle from 500 to 1000 watts but found that using the 500 watt element only didn't give out enough heat. Also, I found that using the built in thermostat made the heater cycle on and off all the time and ended wiring in a wall thermostat.

When I had my 5.0 built I had Reace cut an opening and pre wire for a heater and thermostat and installed one especially made and approved for RV's. These heaters work excellent and I can't understand why more trailers don't have them as an option; especially when they are used in the States as so many state campsites have hookups.

We spend about 50% of our time boon docking but when we have hookups really appreciate having the elec. heater.

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Old 12-19-2012, 07:10 PM   #110
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Hi Barry,
Any pictures of your 5.0 heater install? I haven't used mine yet in re: heat out put, but I got tired of using the little cube heaters and this one is so quiet. I got the idea from my other fg camper I had, an all electric EggCamper which had this type of heater. In that scene, I missed having propane for those non electric sites. Nice having a choice or even both if necessary.
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Old 12-19-2012, 08:43 PM   #111
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Hi Jim

I put one of these heaters in my 2005, 17B, see the post here, http://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f8...ater-1006.html I too put in a switch to toggle from 500 to 1000 watts but found that using the 500 watt element only didn't give out enough heat. Also, I found that using the built in thermostat made the heater cycle on and off all the time and ended wiring in a wall thermostat.

When I had my 5.0 built I had Reace cut an opening and pre wire for a heater and thermostat and installed one especially made and approved for RV's. These heaters work excellent and I can't understand why more trailers don't have them as an option; especially when they are used in the States as so many state campsites have hookups.

We spend about 50% of our time boon docking but when we have hookups really appreciate having the elec. heater.

Barry
We read this post with great interest last spring , and intended to install one of the " King Wall Heaters" - think it's great . But on trying to buy one we found that they need 8" clearance to the floor and in our Escape 15 that would not work in our location of choice ( under the closet door ) .... but Like CPAHarley we found a Broan 174 ( almost the same as the 170 ) that does not need more than 6 " clearance to the floor which works out perfectly . Although it is not installed yet ( to cold - spring job ) we did test it and found it to be whisper quiet . Really appreciate this idea - thanks .
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Today I finished installation of a new electric wall heater. I wanted something more permanent than the portable ones with plugs all over the floor and they are also very noisy. I found a very quiet Broan in wall 1000 watt heater with the option of reducing the wattage to 500 watts by disconnecting a wire during installation. I ordered it on Amazon and upon inspection I decided to add a switch to the unit to allow
either one heat element @ 500 watts or dual elements @ 1000 watts. I installed the unit at the end of the dinette to disperse the heat evenly throughout the trailer. I also installed a wall switch that has a red light when the unit is on. I tapped into an existing outlet for my power and also converted that outlet to a GFCI unit that will cut off power to the heater in the event of any electrical issues. The unit was around $80 on amazon and it is more quiet than the furnace, really impressive. It draws 4 amps on low and with the switch thrown jumps to 8 amps. Completely encased in metal, I fell it is a lot safer than the portable units.

Really appreciate this posting and pics , we have a Broan 174 and plan to install it in spring , found it to be very quiet and the install is pretty simple . Thanks
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Hi Jim

I put one of these heaters in my 2005, 17B, see the post here, http://www.escapeforum.org/forums/f8...ater-1006.html I too put in a switch to toggle from 500 to 1000 watts but found that using the 500 watt element only didn't give out enough heat. Also, I found that using the built in thermostat made the heater cycle on and off all the time and ended wiring in a wall thermostat.

When I had my 5.0 built I had Reace cut an opening and pre wire for a heater and thermostat and installed one especially made and approved for RV's. These heaters work excellent and I can't understand why more trailers don't have them as an option; especially when they are used in the States as so many state campsites have hookups.

We spend about 50% of our time boon docking but when we have hookups really appreciate having the elec. heater.

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Old 12-20-2012, 10:53 PM   #114
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Here are a couple of pictures of the 5.0 install. This particular unit only needs 4" clearance to the floor and 6" to a side wall.

KING ELECTRIC - Electric Heaters - PAW SERIES WALL ELECTRIC HEATER PIC-A-WATT RESIDENTIAL - Manufacturer of Electric Heaters and Thermostats, buy electric heater, buy thermostat, wholesale electric heaters, wholesale thermostats, retail electric heat


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Old 12-21-2012, 08:02 AM   #115
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:46 AM   #118
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Barry,

Do you recall the model number you put in the 17B? I couldn't pinpoint it from the King site based on just your photo.

It appears the model you chose for your 5.0 install would have also worked in the 17B, yes?

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Old 12-21-2012, 08:23 PM   #119
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We read this post with great interest last spring , and intended to install one of the " King Wall Heaters" - think it's great . But on trying to buy one we found that they need 8" clearance to the floor and in our Escape 15 that would not work in our location of choice ( under the closet door ) .
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This is the unit I used in the 17B (Model #1210); it only requires 4" clearance to the floor as noted at the bottom of the page in the center. I guess I should have put a model number on the post to clear up any confusion! Sorry.

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Old 12-21-2012, 09:14 PM   #120
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