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Old 07-01-2016, 11:31 AM   #11
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Does this mean your lights turn off also after 15-20 minutes if left on?
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Old 07-01-2016, 11:42 AM   #12
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And park it next to big brother...
Isn't that amazing! I don't think of our trailers as that small.......until I see our rigs from a distance, among a forest of behemoths.......then I put it in perspective.

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Old 07-01-2016, 11:52 AM   #13
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Ya, and in the morning we rose to see another behemoth parked on the other side of us. We were nested. Guess they felt good protecting us little guys. Lucky they never tried opening their slide-outs.
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Old 07-01-2016, 01:25 PM   #14
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My F150 shuts off the trailer circuits 15 or 20 minutes after the ignition is turned off. No need to disconnect.
Maybe so with newer Fords, but as I understand it the existence of a battery isolation solenoid is dependent on manufacturer and even year of the vehicle. To complicate matters, some newer vehicles with supposed battery "rundown protection" will shut off accessories, but still keep the trailer charge line hot. Also anyone who wires up a vehicle without a factory tow package would have a hot charge line with ignition off unless a solenoid was wired in when installed. I guess an easy way to know is to test the black prong on the 7 pin for voltage with ignition off. If someone owns a vehicle that does not have an isolating relay (and would rather not just unplug the cord from the tow vehicle) one can always be added.

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First thing I check on tow vehicle with a multimeter is whether the charge line is hot with key off. Our Nissan Frontier is not live with key off so I can hot stop and leave the 7pin plugged in.
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First thing I check on tow vehicle with a multimeter is whether the charge line is hot with key off. Our Nissan Frontier is not live with key off so I can hot stop and leave the 7pin plugged in.
Or get one of these.
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Yep, I carry one of those....
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Old 07-01-2016, 04:21 PM   #18
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I actually just got that exact one, Jon. Love it. In the tow kit now.
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I actually just got that exact one, Jon. Love it. In the tow kit now.
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Old 07-01-2016, 05:59 PM   #20
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My F150 shuts off the trailer circuits 15 or 20 minutes after the ignition is turned off. No need to disconnect.
I think that's typical of factory trailer wiring, but details vary. My own wiring in our Sienna shuts off the trailer when the ignition is shut off.

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Does this mean your lights turn off also after 15-20 minutes if left on?
I don't see a connection. Shutoff logic for the trailer, for the lights, and for accessories are separate features - you could have one, some, all, or none.

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Maybe so with newer Fords, but as I understand it the existence of a battery isolation solenoid is dependent on manufacturer and even year of the vehicle. To complicate matters, some newer vehicles with supposed battery "rundown protection" will shut off accessories, but still keep the trailer charge line hot. Also anyone who wires up a vehicle without a factory tow package would have a hot charge line with ignition off unless a solenoid was wired in when installed.
I agree - this is something to be checked out for each individual vehicle. If anyone wires a vehicle themselves (with no factory towing package), they usually put in a shutoff of some sort; if not, they either don't know what they're doing or they have consciously decided that they either want the tow vehicle connected when not running, or that they really want to simplify the system and are sure that they won't have a problem.

Shutoffs can be a relay (or "solenoid") controlled by the ignition switch, or diodes preventing current flow between batteries, or a low-voltage triggered shutoff relay.
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