Power from 6 Volt Batteries - Escape Trailer Owners Community

Go Back   Escape Trailer Owners Community > Escape Tech > Modifications and Alterations
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-06-2019, 12:40 PM   #1
Senior Member
 
Telescopist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Lancaster, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Picked up on May 21st. 2019
Posts: 225
Power from 6 Volt Batteries

Coming back from Osoyoos we stopped at Flying J's, etc. for the night. I uncoupled from the 7 pin on my 4 Runner in order to run off the trailer batteries. I was concerned about draining the vehicle battery. I had loads of fun each morning trying to plug back in. What a pain. The 4-Runner's receptacle is recessed way back in underneath the bumper. Even the guy who walked us through the hitch up orientation at the Escape facility said it was difficult. One time I had to lie down on my back in a driving rain with a flash light in one hand in order to plug the harness in. Has anyone added a cutoff switch on the 21 that would bypass the tow vehicle battery?
__________________

Telescopist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2019, 12:48 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: WI, Wisconsin
Trailer: 2018 Escape 5.0 TA
Posts: 348
What about a short extension to move the connection point in front of the bumper?
__________________

MikeS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2019, 01:26 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Telescopist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Lancaster, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Picked up on May 21st. 2019
Posts: 225
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeS View Post
What about a short extension to move the connection point in front of the bumper?
That is almost too simple.
Telescopist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2019, 01:29 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: East Dover, Vermont
Trailer: 2015 Escape 5.0 TA!
Posts: 251
Quote:
Originally Posted by Telescopist View Post
Coming back from Osoyoos we stopped at Flying J's, etc. for the night. I uncoupled from the 7 pin on my 4 Runner in order to run off the trailer batteries. I was concerned about draining the vehicle battery. I had loads of fun each morning trying to plug back in. What a pain. The 4-Runner's receptacle is recessed way back in underneath the bumper. Even the guy who walked us through the hitch up orientation at the Escape facility said it was difficult. One time I had to lie down on my back in a driving rain with a flash light in one hand in order to plug the harness in. Has anyone added a cutoff switch on the 21 that would bypass the tow vehicle battery?
Don't know about a 4 Runner but many vehicles have a built in disconnect for the power wire. It uses a simple relay the works off of the ignition circuit. It should be easy to test...check the power wire for voltage when running then shut down the truck and check again.
Ian and Sue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2019, 01:56 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Iowa Dave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Benton County, Iowa
Trailer: 2013 Escape 21 Classic Number 6, pulled by 2018 Toyota Highlander
Posts: 3,855
On our 2012 Highlander the receptacle was mounted way to the left side of the vehicle and when we picked up the trailer AZ Jack observed that a hard right turn would pull the plug out and do some damage. I radiused out a mouse hole in the lower bumper cover with a die grinder he had and Jack welded a 1” X 1” angle iron stand-off to the receiver. We moved the plug into place. Worked great for the whole time we had the trailer and the Highlander. Maybe a short extension or rewire of the plug would help you out. Might as well have it accessible as fight it all the time.
Iowa Dave
__________________
Strike while the iron is hot. Live every day as if it were your last and one day you will be right.
Dave
Iowa Dave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2019, 03:43 PM   #6
Site Team
 
cpaharley2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Chilliwack, British Columbia
Trailer: Escape#4, 2019 Escape21 DejaView pulled by 2014 Ram Hemi/8sp
Posts: 18,119
Here is a 3' extender....https://www.amazon.com/ONLINE-LED-ST...gateway&sr=8-6
__________________
Jim
Never in doubt, often wrong.....
cpaharley2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2019, 04:42 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Great Eggstrications's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Redmond, Washington
Trailer: 2015 19' Escape
Posts: 137
I'm not sure about your 4Runner, but on my 2012 when the key is removed or in the "Off" position, the +12 volt feed on the connector goes dead, so no need to unhook the cable. As I recall from previous discussions, you have a 2019 4Runner, and I don't suspect that Toyota would have changed it between 2012 and 2019, but ya never know. You can just use a multi-meter to check yours; there a lots of images on the web showing the location of the +12 connection in the 7-pin connector - just make sure you're looking at the flat blade version and not the round pin version.


https://www.etrailer.com/question-108117.html


As you mentioned, the 4Runner factory connector (it has both 4-pin and 7-pin) is way up under the rear of the vehicle - presumably to keep it out of harm's way when banging around in the rocks and rough stuff. I soldered up a short extension using a fancy connector that included both 4-pin and 7-pin along with the LED's showing the status of each pin - at the time (6 years ago) the only 7-pin extensions I could find were 6' long. I used a piece of flat 1/8" aluminum stock for the mount, and the bottom of the connector is even with the bottom of the hitch receiver, so I didn't lose any ground clearance. The cable hanging down loose is for the rear view camera and is usually up and out of the way.


NB: Whatever you do, just make sure that the wiring in the extension is of adequate gauge for +12 volts, ground, and the brakes in particular.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSC_0014.jpg (170.5 KB, 25 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1018.jpg (137.2 KB, 23 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1026.jpg (174.4 KB, 22 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_1031.jpg (149.4 KB, 22 views)
__________________
Discretion is the better part of boredom.

Tow Vehicle: 2012 Toyota 4Runner Trail, KDSS, BFG A/T KO's, ScanGauge, B&M Tranny Cooler, 20" Opt7 LED Light Bar, LED DRL's, Prodigy P2 Controller, Timbren Rear Springs
Great Eggstrications is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2019, 05:09 PM   #8
Senior Member
 
Vermilye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Oswego, New York
Trailer: 2017 Escape 21, 2018 Ford F150
Posts: 3,166
While an extension makes the most sense since you are probably going to want to unhook when staying for more than a day or two at a location, if you don't have a disconnect relay already built into the charge line, this one will do the trick.

Wire the control connection to a ignition controlled connection, and run the charge line through the contact terminals. If you look for another brand, make sure it is continuous rated. The intermittent relays will burn up when used for this application.
__________________
Jon Vermilye My Travel Blog
Travel and Photo Web Page ... My Collection of RV Blogs 2018 F150 3.5EB, 2017 21
Vermilye is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2019, 06:51 AM   #9
Senior Member
 
Telescopist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Lancaster, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Picked up on May 21st. 2019
Posts: 225
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian and Sue View Post
Don't know about a 4 Runner but many vehicles have a built in disconnect for the power wire. It uses a simple relay the works off of the ignition circuit. It should be easy to test...check the power wire for voltage when running then shut down the truck and check again.
Great suggestion. The first step which I overlooked is to see if there is a problem to begin with. It must have been a situation where I read somewhere that voltage from the tow vehicle battery trickles into the 2 six volt batteries as long as you are hooked up. Hooked up is one thing. Running is another. Thanks.
Telescopist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2019, 06:59 AM   #10
Site Team
 
cpaharley2008's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Chilliwack, British Columbia
Trailer: Escape#4, 2019 Escape21 DejaView pulled by 2014 Ram Hemi/8sp
Posts: 18,119
I have one of these that tests your plug to determine it is properly functioning as well as power when the ignition is off
https://www.amazon.com/58270-7-Way-B...gateway&sr=8-3
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 71zOqwSZjdL._SL1500_.jpg (79.2 KB, 9 views)
__________________

__________________
Jim
Never in doubt, often wrong.....
cpaharley2008 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off






» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Escape Trailer Industries or any of its affiliates. This is an independent, unofficial site.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:48 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright 2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.