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Old 10-16-2016, 12:14 PM   #21
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SCD Receptacle

Found Jim's post interesting and wanted to learn more and did a quick search and found these two links I found interesting.

Appears ETI is installing the Pass & Symour SCD receptacle and requires a tool to attach the wires and the one manufactured by Wirecon, the wires can be installed with the tool or rear cover of the receptacle.

Since Jim has already removed one of these maybe he can comment if this is true.

What I'm liking about these at face value is with a regular box I would always have to shove a bunch of wires into the box and try to fit the cover back on, the SCD solves this problem IMHO.

Not endorsing anything just sharing info.

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Adding a combination USB and 120VAC duplex outlet to my RV.

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Old 10-16-2016, 12:37 PM   #22
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With me it's probably just a case of "It's new and I'm used to the old way". Not saying it isn't suitable. Provided you have the proper SCD tool, I can see this being much quicker, especially when wiring a large number of boxes.

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thanks for the pics..those outlets obviously work but IMHO junk as there are better outlets ...disappointed in ETI choice of insulation displacement connection to save a few cents in labor and parts cost compared to a very good AC outlet for less than $1 each on a 30k trailer ...... similar to GM trying to save a few pennies on the ignition switch on a 30K+ vehicle..

....given a choice would not plug a portable heater or a toaster oven into those outlets and just another thing to add to the list of things to fix on a new Escape trailer...
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It doesn't appear that these plugs are cheaper than the standard duplex type plugs used in residential construction. The above link shows them as being about $5.00 USD. Much more expensive than the standard duplex in your home.
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With me it's probably just a case of "It's new and I'm used to the old way". Not saying it isn't suitable. Provided you have the proper SCD tool, I can see this being much quicker, especially when wiring a large number of boxes.

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In our 19 found the 120 outlet down under the refrigerator and the 120 outlet on the wall next to the bed Escape had put in weren't really being used . I changed both those outlet' s to 120 and USB . They have the little green led' s when we plug USB in and still have a 120 if needed . We now are using those outlet' s more . Being they are powered by 120 need to be hooked up to power if using . Each side has a table so phone's or tablet 's can sit there when using those outlet 's . Before especially the outlet next to bed , the 120 cord stuck out too far , in fact bedding covered it most of the time , probably reason why it didn't get used much . Pat
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It doesn't appear that these plugs are cheaper than the standard duplex type plugs used in residential construction. The above link shows them as being about $5.00 USD. Much more expensive than the standard duplex in your home.
if ETI is paying anywhere near that price then they certainly would not be saving money on the cost of that device versus the cost of the device with the traditional wiring connection.
While opinions may differ for various reasons with regard to this type device, this camper prefers a duplex outlet for AC wiring in which the copper to copper connection area is maximized with a properly terminated wire and screw clamp connection. Out of caution, this camper also would not plug a portable heater or toaster oven into the insulation displacement connection devices.
Since there are only a few of these devices in the trailer, this camper would prefer to replace them.
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Jeff,
You may be painting yourself into a corner since it appears most rv manufacturers are now installing these. I know Reace and Tammy attend RV trade shows where new products are demonstrated so they are following the industry standard.
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In our 19 found the 120 outlet down under the refrigerator and the 120 outlet on the wall next to the bed Escape had put in weren't really being used . I changed both those outlet' s to 120 and USB . They have the little green led' s when we plug USB in and still have a 120 if needed . We now are using those outlet' s more . Being they are powered by 120 need to be hooked up to power if using . Each side has a table so phone's or tablet 's can sit there when using those outlet 's . Before especially the outlet next to bed , the 120 cord stuck out too far , in fact bedding covered it most of the time , probably reason why it didn't get used much . Pat
A couple of pictures of outlet"s we changed . Also one of mod to solve problem of surge being shut off remote . Last picture borrowed from Myron a cover after reading many broke the shut off switches . Pat
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I decided to add extra USB outlets as they are functional hooked up to electric or not. You can easily add adapters to the older round 12v style for USB also. I'm working on my own fail safe switch protectors.
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I decided to add extra USB outlets as they are functional hooked up to electric or not. You can easily add adapters to the older round 12v style for USB also. I'm working on my own fail safe switch protectors.
i am fully aware of 12 volt outlet's . I wanted to make the 120 outlet one's useful because we never were using them especially in the bed area because the adapter stick out too far and is covered by bedding most of the time . A little cord does not and 20,00 for both with a nice green Led to boot . Pat
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i am fully aware of 12 volt outlet's . I wanted to make the 120 outlet one's useful because we never were using them especially in the bed area because the adapter stick out too far and is covered by bedding most of the time . A little cord does not and 20,00 for both with a nice green Led to boot . Pat
I should also add only have one 12 volt, very inconvenient under dinette . maybe later add more . This was the simplest solution for our solution . Pat
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