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Old 09-07-2019, 11:50 PM   #1
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Propane alarm replacement

Every 5 years these things go end-of-life; mine did last week on my 2014-21. Pulled it out of the bench and found ZERO wire slack, and the ETI crimps captured between two wire clamps. No way to get to there without removing the batteries and the battery box.See first pic.


I am not going to do this every 5 years, so I added wire to the 12V run from the wall and spade disconnects for the alarm that I could access with the unit off the wall.


Wrote ETI about their poor design; should have planned access to a maintenance item that required R&R periodically. 20 mins later the reply was they're going to review that need on all models....
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Old 09-07-2019, 11:56 PM   #2
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I replaced mine, adding some wire. It's not tidy now and is much more apt to be caught by something stored in that bench. I suspect that is why the wiring was so tight.

ETI could add spade connections, increasing cost and complication, or you can do it when you replace the detector.
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Old 09-08-2019, 06:09 AM   #3
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I did something similar, I asked that the batteries be moved 2" to allow watering access instead of a bench support in the way, they complied.
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It is not a problem in the original position of mine in the 5.0TA as there is really nothing else near it. In any trailer though just enough slack to be able to replace it would be good.

When I tore the cabinetry apart in this location in my trailer to allow a bigger drawer for the garbage and recycling buckets, I did have to move it.
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Wrote ETI about their poor design; should have planned access to a maintenance item that required R&R periodically. 20 mins later the reply was they're going to review that need on all models....
Escape really can't be blamed - it's an industry wide habit to not consider maintenance. Think about the Dodge truck that you had to loosen the motor mounts and lift the motor to be able to change that back spark plug.

When doing projects in the plant, I made it a requirement that maintenance sign off on all designs - it's amazing the stuff the project engineers would try to do.
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When I was having an electrical problem in Ten Forward and thought I'd need to replace the GFCI in the kitchen, I found exactly how little slack there was in the wiring. A ten minute job would have turned into an hour job (plus ANOTHER trip to the hardware store), compared to the spaghetti wiring in my Scamp. Scamp manufacturing took care of the 'extra' wiring by blobbing on a strip of silicone caulk inside the cabinetry and affixing the wire to the cabinet wall. Oh my...
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Every 5 years these things go end-of-life; mine did last week ..................
Does it do something when it goes, "end of life". The reason I ask is I have a switch on mine to cut power when I'm not using it otherwise it constantly goes off when the solar panel does the bulk charge each month. I just have it switched on when camping and the one on my 2012 5.0 is original and still works.
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End of Life Signal The Sensor has a 5 Year Service Life All 35Seriesmodels include an End of Life (EOL) Signal indicating the sensor has reached the end of its service life and you must replace the alarm. The signal is the LEDflashing RED RED GREEN GREEN with a beep every 25-30 seconds. The EOL Signal may be reset by pushing TEST / RESET button on the alarm. This will reset the EOL Signal for a period of 72 hours (3 days) for a total of up to 30 days. After 30 days the signalcannot be reset and the alarm must be replaced. DO NOT DISCONNECT THE ALARM UNTIL YOU HAVE A REPLACEMENT ALARM AVAILABLE TO INSTALL


Google Safe-T-Alert for the instruction manual. It says to not put it on a switch of its own. If switched, all DC appliances in the RV should turn off.
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Does it do something when it goes, "end of life". The reason I ask is I have a switch on mine to cut power when I'm not using it otherwise it constantly goes off when the solar panel does the bulk charge each month. I just have it switched on when camping and the one on my 2012 5.0 is original and still works.
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Depends on what model you have. My 2017 21' has the Atwood 31014.

Atwood 31014 RV Propane Gas Detector Indicator lights

Green light blinks periodically during normal operation
Red light flashes while active alarm is sounding
Red light blinks periodically if power is low
Yellow light blinks if maintenance is needed (needs replacement)
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End of Life Signal The Sensor has a 5 Year Service Life All 35Seriesmodels include an End of Life (EOL) Signal indicating the sensor has reached the end of its service life and you must replace the alarm. The signal is the LEDflashing RED RED GREEN GREEN with a beep every 25-30 seconds. The EOL Signal may be reset by pushing TEST / RESET button on the alarm. This will reset the EOL Signal for a period of 72 hours (3 days) for a total of up to 30 days. After 30 days the signalcannot be reset and the alarm must be replaced. DO NOT DISCONNECT THE ALARM UNTIL YOU HAVE A REPLACEMENT ALARM AVAILABLE TO INSTALL


Google Safe-T-Alert for the instruction manual. It says to not put it on a switch of its own. If switched, all DC appliances in the RV should turn off.
Okay thanks for that, mine hasn't beeped or flashed like that.

I would love to be able to not have the alarm on a switch but it's placement right next to the batteries sets it off all the time. I've got a check list I go through before camping to make sure I turn it on. At some point I'm going to have to relocate the alarm.

I had the trailer in for service at Escape one year and the alarm was going off all the time so, not having a key for the trailer, they tried to break in though the door ruining the lock so they ended up having to give me a new handle and lock. After that I put a switch in!
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