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Old 07-13-2015, 10:05 AM   #1
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Raised Dinette Floor & pedestal in a 21

When we brought the Skylark back to ETI for a new fridge we also had a couple of other things done by ETI.

First, Lindy decided that she was REALLY in love with a foot-flush toilet. So we swapped out the standard toilet for a foot flush model. I can't tell the difference, but she if very happy with the change. It cost us about $225 to make the switch, so my suggestion is that if you think you might want the foot-flush toilet, be sure and get it on your build sheet.

Second, we had ETI build a raised floor for the dinette (see photo). We did this because I have been suffering from sciatic pain for the past year, and the distance between the top of the cushion to the floor was a bit too long for me to sit comfortably. The end of the cushion hit the back of my leg at just the right spot that it irritated the nerve back there. I had been using a stool underneath the table, but that wasn't comfortable either.

The week before we left for Osoyoos I made a rash decision that as long as we were raising the floor we ought to move to a hydraulic pedestal, and have it installed at the same time. The only color we could get on short notice was black, which was fine with me since I prefer black to chrome.

We left the trailer at ETI for a couple of days while this work was being done, and when we returned (at about 4:15 PM), Reace gave us a choice between having the table installed flush with the wall (Iike it is now) or about 3" out from the wall so that it could be lowered into the bed position. We were all tired, and frankly it wasn't our best decision making moment, but we ended up having the table installed flush with the wall since we don't have any need to make it into a bed in the short term.

Eventually I would like to build a new top for the table that folds up, kind of like the tables on the TVG trains in France so that we could have a small table sometimes, and a larger table when we have guests or when we just want the space. But that project is going to have to wait until Lindy and I come to an agreement about what the top of the table should look like. She wants to keep the formica covering, and I would prefer a hardwood table with a lot of polyurethene on the top.

In spite of the fact that we can't lower the table into the bed position currently, we are still very pleased that we have a single pedestal which is adjustable. We can change the table height so that it is lower when we are working on our computers, and a bit higher for dining. I believe it is much easier to enter and exit the dining area with a single pedestal. It just seems my legs go in and out easier. The pedestal is definitely much more stable than the two poles. Lastly, Murphy-the-Dog seems happier with the pedestal. His bed fits nicely behind the pedestal, and he seems to be able to go back there without getting in the way of our feet.

I am 5'8" tall and Lindy is 5' even. For those of you who are cyclists, I ride a 54cm frame. Given our height, we are so happy we raised the floor. We also stuck a couple of large pool noodles (thanks Earline). behind the cushion backs. The net result is that sitting at the dinette is much more comfortable for both of us.
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doh! here's the photo. It doesn't appear to me that one is able to add a photo when editing a post.
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If you are pleased with the hydraulic pedestal, please provide the manufacture and model number. Thank you, Bob
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Good info.

So if you get a raised platform dinette area, the benches are not also raised? Somehow I was under the impression that they would be higher too. I like the height of your benches compared to the floor... looks like a comfortable height.
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doh! here's the photo. It doesn't appear to me that one is able to add a photo when editing a post.
Hi: LeonW... On Edit... click "Go advanced" then you can add a pic.
So now your trailer sleeps 4...2 at a time!!! Alf
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If you are pleased with the hydraulic pedestal, please provide the manufacture and model number. Thank you, Bob
We got this one We have been very pleased with it. When I called JMS Online Marine, the fellow I spoke to waived the shipping charge since I was a new customer. He also looked up the shipping time and said I didn't need two day shipping since the transit time from Detroit to St. Paul was only two days, even with standard shipping. I thought it was great customer service.
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Good info.

So if you get a raised platform dinette area, the benches are not also raised? Somehow I was under the impression that they would be higher too. I like the height of your benches compared to the floor... looks like a comfortable height.
We didn't get the benches raised -- they are just fine and we can see out the windows with no problems. We just got the floor raised. You an only raise the floor so much, limited by the height of the power center. It is also limited by how low the pedestal will go. In our case, 3.5 inches was the right height.
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Hi: LeonW... On Edit... click "Go advanced" then you can add a pic.
So now your trailer sleeps 4...2 at a time!!! Alf
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Thanks Alf. I didn't see that, and now it looks like I can't edit the post anymore. But no big deal. Learn something every day...
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Good info.

So if you get a raised platform dinette area, the benches are not also raised? Somehow I was under the impression that they would be higher too. I like the height of your benches compared to the floor... looks like a comfortable height.
You cannot raise the benches on a 21'.


Leon, I don't know about this table. What is the advantage you have if you do not install it such that it can be lowered for the bed? That is the table that came with the trailer, right?
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