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Old 08-15-2017, 02:56 PM   #1
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Single pane windows vs dual pane

I believe that the front windows in 15As 17s and 19s are single pane only, but I could be wrong. If it is correct then quite a few owners have a mix of single and dual pane windows.

My question is, can anyone tell the difference between single pane and dual pane windows in terms of condensation, sound, insulation?

My trailer has dual pane in all but the door, which is too small to notice a difference.

Thanks for your responses.
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Old 08-15-2017, 03:04 PM   #2
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Yes, the difference is observable. The single glazed front window on my 19 always has much more condensation than the other windows. But that's the price of the rock guard/awning. Not an issue for me, just a minor nuisance.

As far as sound goes I don't think it's a factor, at least not for me. When I close the windows by the bed campground sounds just fade away.

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Old 08-15-2017, 03:37 PM   #3
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While we don't have dual pane, so I can't comment on that, I can say that so far, the only time we have had a condensation issue was the first time we ran the AC one hot night and did not leave windows open. Lesson learned after that, and as long as we have proper ventilation, we have no issues.

As far as sound, we always sleep with windows open, so single pane, or dual pane, probably does not matter.
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Old 08-15-2017, 03:46 PM   #4
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Escape 21 is the only model without the front, Viajante, is that your model. and depending on year, your door class is also double paned. As far as condensation, a piece of reflective installed in the winter either permanently or temp takes acre of any issue with condensation. The new frameless should help considerably.
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Old 08-16-2017, 09:34 PM   #5
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I talked with a rep from rv window industry on the topic of single pane vs dual pane.

Customers demand dual pane because of the perceived insulation value (thinking of their home thermopanes) and the industry delivered. The fact is there is almost no difference.

The 1/4" airspace is insignificant in R value. As pointed out in a previous thread, the frames conduct cold temps to a degree that outweighs any insulation value. The cost of adding an insulating barrier to the frame is prohibitive. A 1/2" airspace in home windows provides a dramatic increase in R value, and no aluminum frames.

The sound attenuation value of dual pane is about the same as laminated glass in a car windshield. Some value there, but not significant.

Condensation is less in dual pane. But, it can be managed, or is a small annoyance.

The downside of dual pane is the fogging problem, which is apparently common.

I'm just researching the value of some options and passing the word along.
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Old 08-16-2017, 09:40 PM   #6
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ROFL ROFL ROFL... sounds like to me the rep never camped in a travel trailer in the shoulder seasons with single-pane windows.

The difference in condensation between my Scamp (single pane) and Ten Forward is HUGE. Yes I know t.here 7 more feet of interior space, but I've never, ever had to wipe the windows down in Ten Forward where with my Scamp it was a constant battle. The entire length of Ten Forward feels dry where the Scamp always felt damp. I think that rep needs to go to school....

Small annoyance? Not even.
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ROFL ROFL ROFL... sounds like to me the rep never camped in a travel trailer in the shoulder seasons with single-pane windows.

The difference in condensation between my Scamp (single pane) and Ten Forward is HUGE. Yes I know t.here 7 more feet of interior space, but I've never, ever had to wipe the windows down in Ten Forward where with my Scamp it was a constant battle. The entire length of Ten Forward feels dry where the Scamp always felt damp. I think that rep needs to go to school....

Small annoyance? Not even.
Tell it like it is Donna Absolutely agree. I know about ventilation etc. to reduce condensation but the fact is that there are times when it's cold, the humidity is high and condensation is likely. The difference between the two types isn't insignificant. It's the difference between water running down the wall and having to be wiped up and mild or no condensation.

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Yes, the difference is observable. The single glazed front window on my 19 always has much more condensation than the other windows. But that's the price of the rock guard/awning. Not an issue for me, just a minor nuisance.

As far as sound goes I don't think it's a factor, at least not for me. When I close the windows by the bed campground sounds just fade away.

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Sorry Ron, I thought you were in agreement with the rep that condensation was a minor annoyance. Must have misread your post.
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ROFL ROFL ROFL... sounds like to me the rep never camped in a travel trailer in the shoulder seasons with single-pane windows.

The difference in condensation between my Scamp (single pane) and Ten Forward is HUGE. Yes I know t.here 7 more feet of interior space, but I've never, ever had to wipe the windows down in Ten Forward where with my Scamp it was a constant battle. The entire length of Ten Forward feels dry where the Scamp always felt damp. I think that rep needs to go to school....

Small annoyance? Not even.
No argument that the insulation value is negligable?
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Old 08-16-2017, 11:05 PM   #10
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I have dual pane windows on my current trailer. I thought it would be good for insulation. Now I'm finding out it's not. That interested me and thought I'd try to put the facts out.
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