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Old 01-11-2018, 11:17 AM   #1
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Some Other Pedestal Advice

I'll have a Springfield at the back dinette. For the front dinette, which will have a small table (width x @ 30 inches) I want to substitute something for the ETI standard post system.

First priority is the footprint--I will use the underbed area for a bit of storage, so low profile base is key. It will very rarely be used as a table.

I am looking at these--price difference is far secondary to stability/utility

Sequoia @$57
Sequoia™ Table Leg & Base System - ITC Marine
(the floor base is available in aluminum and stainless--I'd assume stainless is better, and in 5" and 7" diameter. Mediocre reviews focus on wobbly, may not be a significant issue with the smaller table and infrequent use.

Redwood @$100
Redwood™ Table Leg & Base System - ITC Marine
This seems much less secure/stable than the Sequoia. Reviews are not so hot, either.

Garelick @$80
https://www.wholesalemarine.com/gare...tal-75640.html
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I'll have a Springfield at the back dinette. For the front dinette, which will have a small table (width x @ 30 inches) I want to substitute something for the ETI standard post system.

First priority is the footprint--I will use the underbed area for a bit of storage, so low profile base is key. It will very rarely be used as a table.

I am looking at these--price difference is far secondary to stability/utility

Sequoia @$57
Sequoia™ Table Leg & Base System - ITC Marine
(the floor base is available in aluminum and stainless--I'd assume stainless is better, and in 5" and 7" diameter. Mediocre reviews focus on wobbly, may not be a significant issue with the smaller table and infrequent use.

Redwood @$100
Redwood™ Table Leg & Base System - ITC Marine
This seems much less secure/stable than the Sequoia. Reviews are not so hot, either.

Garelick @$80
https://www.wholesalemarine.com/gare...tal-75640.html
Consider a Lagun mount for the small dinette. Nothing on the floor to get in the way, and removable when you don't need the table.
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There have been a number of complaints on wobbling tables over the years. Escape has said to remove the top when travelling. I would think that that has a great deal to do with how much wobbling there may be. Our Sequoia pedestals were installed by Escape and very solidly. We, however, took out the table. Had we been carrying it for thousands of miles, the weight of the table may have made it wobble after such travel. So there is no way for us to know if that would have affected it.

I know of someone who had the standard set-up and it wobbled. They tried various things and even put holes right through the front of the trailer to get the table to stop wobbling, I believe using a piece of wood. I can't say for sure that they travelled with the top on but I expect that they did.
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:58 PM   #4
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Robert, that's a pretty elegant solution. I'll check it out. It looks like the L support could be stored in a bench. For installation (not a U shaped dinette) I think the mounting mechanism could go against one of the side benches if the bench wall was reinforced. How do you think it would impact the rail for the table when it's a bed? A notch in the bed support rail would probably not affect the bed stability.

Do you know if ETI has installed this?

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When we had a 17B I remember the rear dinette being a bear to deal with stock table mounts. The little table up front with the single pole was a breeze. Seems to me if you put that Lagun mount on one side as shown in the boat photo that you eliminate the seat for someone to join you at what we called our bistro table.
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Robert, that's a pretty elegant solution. I'll check it out. It looks like the L support could be stored in a bench. For installation (not a U shaped dinette) I think the mounting mechanism could go against one of the side benches if the bench wall was reinforced.
Yes, regardless of where it's installed, it should probably be reinforced behind the bench face.
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How do you think it would impact the rail for the table when it's a bed? A notch in the bed support rail would probably not affect the bed stability.
I think a notch would be fine. Or, you could "stand off" the bracket with a block of wood behind it so no notch is necessary.
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Do you know if ETI has installed this?
Again, I don't know. You could send them a link for it and ask if they would be willing to install during the build. If not, you could have them not install anything and just supply you the table top. That way you've got a blank slate to do it yourself.
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I would highly suggest that anyone getting any other table set-up have Escape install whatever you need to put the standard table into place for a bed (or possibly some other table you have made or get that will do the same.) The ability to have a bed there is very important to many buyers.
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Cathy, my front bed/table will be two pieces--a 30 inch piece for the bed, next to the front window, and a +/-20 inch piece which will also *maybe* fit across the back of the rear dinette with some pillows for a faux u shaped dinette. If it doesn't work, the filler board will still make the front bed bigger if I have my grands with me. I might also try to put some pvc legs on the filler to make a bed tray/ipad and keyboard stand using something like this: https://www.supplyhouse.com/Everflow...yABEgIFYfD_BwE

Sounds like if I go with the Lagun I will not need ETI to install anything for the table in the front. I might take the base, pole, mount, and slide just in case I change my mind, since it's part of the package.
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If you sell --- which many did not plan to do and then the next thing they are selling --- a lot of people need that second bed and would want the standard set-up or something just like it.

Anyone should be able to get the standard set-up plus their own which they are paying extra for anyway. Or some combination that definitely gives you the extra bed.
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If you sell --- which many did not plan to do and then the next thing they are selling --- a lot of people need that second bed and would want the standard set-up or something just like it.

Anyone should be able to get the standard set-up plus their own which they are paying extra for anyway. Or some combination that definitely gives you the extra bed.
I don't really see an issue if you keep the stock table. You can make a bed regardless of the type of table mount. In fact, I should think a better table mounting system than the sockets and poles would be a selling point.
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