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Old 04-26-2015, 06:02 PM   #31
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Unless you are putting them inside, then you will need a vented battery box.
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Old 04-27-2015, 01:35 AM   #32
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Best talk to ETI about this. I believe there are modifications to the frame, which is why they needed to know from the start if you wanted dual 6V. My understanding is that to make the change after the fact is extremely costly.
Good idea. From what I can see, the modifications to the frame would be moving the spare tire carrier to the centre, adding a battery box support to the drivers side rear. The current battery box frame on the passenger side would need to be modified as well. Overall, fairly minor welding, unless there were some major changes to the frame as well.
No time like the present though. My 12 volt battery is not holding a charge for long so needs replacement regardless. I picked up two 6 volt battery boxes last year on a sweet deal, also have some surplus battery cable handy. A couple pieces of angle iron along with some square tubing, a little welding, some grinding, a little paint, and I should be in business. My biggest cost should be the new batteries.... Unless there is something else that I am not seeing.
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Old 04-27-2015, 11:33 AM   #33
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Probably access to a hydraulic crimping tool and some heavy connectors. All your runs will be custom length and you want to minimize length. Eight gauge or less for main.
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Old 04-27-2015, 07:05 PM   #34
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most electrical supply houses should sell crimp on connectors for the wire chosen and should have a loaner/ renta crimping tool for crimping them.
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Old 04-27-2015, 07:40 PM   #35
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Buddy, if you don't mind not taking advantage of your extra cable, and you want professionally crimped terminals on heavy-gauge cable, I have heard of suppliers who make up cables with whatever length and terminals you specify. I did a quick search in FiberglassRV where this was discussed, and although I didn't find a specific supplier, a search in eBay or whatever for "custom battery cables" should work, and I this post from FiberglassRV makes sense to me:
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measure off the length you need, get the crimp ends and go to any large electrical contractor or wholesale outlet, they should be willing to do a few crimps with the hydraulic crimper for little or nothing. Most wholesalers would consider this a demo, and you might buy a roll or two of tape or some heat shrink or even the crimp ends while you're there.

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Our local NAPA auto parts store makes custom wire by the foot, and crimps any style ends on it that you would like.
I have had a custom propane hose made up by an industrial hose supplier - they did the assembly, charged only for he hose and fittings, and do this routinely; electrical could easily be the same.

Personally, I would likely just connect the terminals to the cable myself. Crimping in large gauges is difficult; an alternative to hydraulic tools or professional services might be to use a compression type terminal (such as from QuickCable or the overpriced version from Monster Cable at auto sound shops) - a local industrial supplier carries the QuickCable brand and that is what I was planning to use for an aborted RV power project.
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Old 04-27-2015, 10:51 PM   #36
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Manually hypressing lugs/ terminations on cable sized #1AWG and smaller is easy
Bundy makes an a crimping tool with an adjustable head for crimping different size lugs.
We often used #4 & #2 welding whip cable in battery applications ( electric forklifts- jumper cables -UPS systems ) ,it is highly flexible and the insulation is extremely tough .
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Manually hypressing lugs/ terminations on cable sized #1AWG and smaller is easy
Bundy makes an a crimping tool with an adjustable head for crimping different size lugs.
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I believe Steve. What I should have said is that crimping in large gauges is difficult without the right tool.
What's hard to believe is the price of these tools: $1444 and up Maybe I didn't find the reasonbly priced ones?
I suppose borrowing or renting is the solution... if large gauge connections are needed. For those in Wisconsin, maybe Steve's is available.
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Old 04-28-2015, 08:49 AM   #38
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I found a hydraulic crimping tool on Amazon for under $40. It proved useful for the solar wiring I performed on my 21. It is not light and certainly not easy to fit into tight spaces but comes with a good variety of dies to fit almost any battery terminal connector available. I have more trouble finding a local source for the variety of connectors I needed. They are out there, I just have not found a single store with lots of inventory and variety.

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Old 04-28-2015, 09:59 AM   #39
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While not the least expensive solution, GenuinedealZ is where I've had my #0 inverter cables made. Excellent quality, your choice of color, and lots of terminal choices.

For those that prefer stranded 120V AC wiring, they supply Triplex AC Boat Wiring.
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For those that prefer stranded 120V AC wiring, they supply Triplex AC Boat Wiring.
I understand the reasoning behind the stranded wire for use in a vehicle, but has anyone heard of the solid wire actually failing in a trailer? I would think there would have to be a heck of a lot of vibration to cause failure, and I can only image what else would fail on a trailer with the same effects on it. I pulled the old stuff out of the '76 Trillium I am working on, and it was in great shape. I just plan on replacing with new solid #14 wire, as I have lots on hand.
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