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Old 01-01-2016, 05:31 PM   #41
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Sure isn't a hole in my fiberglass shell for a table mount.
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Old 01-01-2016, 06:13 PM   #42
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The following image, first posted in FiberglassRV in the topic Escape Trailer, shows the recessed front dinette leg socket protruding down through a hole in the fiberglass shell. This was long ago when there was only one size (17') of Escape - this is a 2006 17B, in factory-stock condition, displayed in a dealer's showroom when Escapes were sold by dealers.

I didn't get a clear photo of the corresponding floor area under the rear dinette.

Design details change with time, and vary between models.
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Old 01-01-2016, 06:21 PM   #43
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On the 19 at least, no worries about drilling through that area, there's nothing at all to hit.

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In the standard 19' layout, the dinette is in the front. As Ron said, there's nothing there to hit, and I think that's true of the middle of this front area in any model other than the 5.0/5.0TA. All underfloor tanks are further back.

In all other models, there is a rear dinette; in the 17' at least, the freshwater tank is under it, up against the floor.
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Old 01-01-2016, 06:26 PM   #44
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Having a hole like that through the bottom of the shell, behind the axle, wouldn't bother me. I like the recessed pole holders. But then again, I don't even have a table so what do I know...
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Old 01-01-2016, 06:31 PM   #45
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Having a hole like that through the bottom of the shell, behind the axle, wouldn't bother me. I like the recessed pole holders. But then again, I don't even have a table so what do I know...
It seems manageable to me - although not ideal - but I'll note that both the 2006 17B which I posted and Jubal's 19' have that recessed socket ahead of the axle.
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Old 01-01-2016, 07:08 PM   #46
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The recessed pedestal bases were standard OE and not an option. Another questionable installation.
What exactly was wrong with how they were installed?

This would be the first of this type I have heard of Escape installing. I quite like the idea, so if you take out the pedestals, you are nearly flush with the sockets. Nice....
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Old 01-01-2016, 08:10 PM   #47
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With the foam option, you would never know that bump existed. I like that flush mount better than the camel humps. I think if that install was continued, a lot less people may opt to go with the expense of a expensive pump pedestal. I wonder why that was discontinued?
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What exactly was wrong with how they were installed?
I guess they were installed up-side-down.
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Although I am not a fan of the RV-standard table post mount I think that in an Escape the bumps are better then the flush mounts. I suspect the early Escapes were (at least partly) based on the Casita/Scamp, and to me the bump mounts are an example of the ETI tradition of improving their product when they can, not waiting for a model year.

1) One less shell hole is one less chance to leak. And in my Casita the twisting/shoving to get the table more stable broke the mount.
2) It limits what you can put under the floor - like fresh or gray tanks.
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Although I am not a fan of the RV-standard table post mount I think that in an Escape the bumps are better then the flush mounts. I suspect the early Escapes were (at least partly) based on the Casita/Scamp...
Although the Escape body and frame design are based on the Surfside TM14, which in turn was a variant of the Trillium 4500, it would make sense that some specific details would be inspired by other trailers with some construction similarities. All of these trailers traditionally used a fold-down table design (not the post-in-socket system), but if Casita (or less likely, Scamp) had these sockets long enough ago that might have been the inspiration.

Where there is nothing under the floor (17' and 19' front dinettes), I would prefer the flush mount with a bump moulded into the shell to accommodate it... with an option to leave the floor intact for a user-provided pedestal.
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