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Old 11-01-2016, 09:18 AM   #1
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U shaped dinette in a 17B - yea or nay

Was just reading the comments on the thread "u-shape dinette in 19". This is one of the most difficult of the decisions I am mulling over.... I see from the "19" comments that the side benches are narrower than the standard configuration - is that the case in the 17B? I am guess yes but am curious as to why?

17B folks - why did you choose or not choose the U-shape dinette??
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Where would you put a U-shape dinette in a 17B?
This is the front dinette, as normally set up with table in our trailer. The rear dinette is our bed.
You could remove the table at the rear, but where you going to keep it, and what would you gain?
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A bed maybe, but not a U-shaped dinette. Escape will convert it to a permanent bed for a fee, which results in a bed that's narrow on one end and wide on the other, and requires the removal of the wardrobe - ok for some folks I guess. That way, you can convert the dinette in the rear (normally used for a bed) into a U-shaped dinette.

EDIT: If you are a solo camper, you might be able to have Escape turn the front dinette into a permanent bed without deleting the wardrobe - a single narrow bed. Perhaps a reasonable option.
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Yes, mostly I am a solo camper. I will be using the front dinette as a bed and the back as a lounge area with table as needed. I want the option of converting to a bed as needed - the smaller table of the u-dinette will fit under the front bed set-up. I am curious to know if the benches in the U-dinette are narrower... anyone know??
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Yes, mostly I am a solo camper. I will be using the front dinette as a bed and the back as a lounge area with table as needed. I want the option of converting to a bed as needed - the smaller table of the u-dinette will fit under the front bed set-up. I am curious to know if the benches in the U-dinette are narrower... anyone know??
OK, now I see. You want to convert the REAR dinette to a U-shape, and sleep up front. Sure, why not? Only option you'd have to order is the U-shape. Everything else is stock.
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I still can't see any advantage of a U-shape dinette at the rear of a 17B. For a short time we converted the bed to dinette during the day. Generally would sit leaning against the corners where the rear and side walls meet, resting an arm on the dinette table, within easy reach of a coffee mug or a beer.
How do you imagine you are going to use the bottom of the U? If somebody sits there, where are they going to put their feet?
I believe the 17 is four inches narrower than the 19, making for a wider aisle. This picture of storage under the dinette/bed should give you an idea of the space you are looking at. Adding a bench at the back will only make it smaller.
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How deep is that floor area Glenn? The specs say the dinette/bed area is 52" deep. If you added a bench, you're down to about 36", but with the slight taper in along the back of the trailer, you might lose 4" of that. So, roughly 32"?
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From the edge of the raised floor to the back wall ( which is sloped ) is 42 inches. I have stuff piled on the bed/dinette right now and it's pouring rain, or I could open it up and take a pic. In any event it's not a lot of room.
I see that ETI offers U-dinette in the 17' on their site. All I know is I wouldn't get it. Need the table to play cards, for my laptop, etc.
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From the edge of the raised floor to the back wall ( which is sloped ) is 42 inches. I have stuff piled on the bed/dinette right now and it's pouring rain, or I could open it up and take a pic. In any event it's not a lot of room.
I see that ETI offers U-dinette in the 17' on their site. All I know is I wouldn't get it. Need the table to play cards, for my laptop, etc.
Ok, so 42" minus the depth of the bench. Maybe 26" max. Sure sounds small.
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How are the specs 52" if you are only getting 42"?
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The back wall slopes toward the front. I measured from the lip to the back wall. It is what it is. That slope would be contained within any bench along the back wall, so I don't know how significant it is.
No matter, I'm still trying to understand what advantage is gained with a U-shape dinette, especially in such a small space.
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Old 11-02-2016, 11:25 AM   #12
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I like to lounge with my legs up, which the U shaped configuration allows. I dont even have the table in my Escape, its stored. I Use stooge tables for coffee and meals. This allows lots more room for my pets to be up with me, too. As Donna says, YMMV.
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How about this: The stock table has a folding center leg attached to the table. The back of the table is attached, but easily removeable from the back wall of the 17. As others have said, the dinette is not so large that you would gain much from a center portion making it a U. So, just go with the stock dinette, and remove the table.

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You use the filler piece, that's normally in front of the table when folded down for use as the stock bed, up against the back wall, and add a cushion, pillow, etc.

Or, you could add an upholstered piece that spans across at the back. Make it as wide or narrow as is comfortable.
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Like your way of thinking, great practical solution without being tied to a permanent arrangement which you may regret later when you start to use it.

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How about this: The stock table has a folding center leg attached to the table. The back of the table is attached, but easily removeable from the back wall of the 17. As others have said, the dinette is not so large that you would gain much from a center portion making it a U. So, just go with the stock dinette, and remove the table.

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You use the filler piece, that's normally in front of the table when folded down for use as the stock bed, up against the back wall, and add a cushion, pillow, etc.

Or, you could add an upholstered piece that spans across at the back. Make it as wide or narrow as is comfortable.
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Don's suggestion is very nice, we have the hinged table as I believe he is referring to . It does need to be planned ahead as wood blocks are molded in to the wall during the build process. The blocks are necessary to support the table.
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Was just reading the comments on the thread "u-shape dinette in 19". This is one of the most difficult of the decisions I am mulling over.... I see from the "19" comments that the side benches are narrower than the standard configuration - is that the case in the 17B? I am guess yes but am curious as to why?

17B folks - why did you choose or not choose the U-shape dinette??
We ordered the U-shaped dinette in the rear our 17B. We had ETI not mount the table or the floor bracket, but all parts were in the trailer when we picked up so they could be mounted in the future.

There is one large cushion across the back of the trailer and two small cushions on the side. These three cushions and the table and hardware reside in a closet at home and could be used in the future.

The bed is made by using slats of one by six that I cut to fit. These slats go under the passenger side bench when not in use.

This setup may not be for everyone but works well for the two of us, and makes the trailer seem more open and spacious. I will attempt to attach a picture.

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Ok, so 42" minus the depth of the bench. Maybe 26" max. Sure sounds small.
The floor measures 31 inches front to back and 27 inches wide.
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U-shaped dinette 17B

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Looks good. Nice pillow collection.
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That is so pretty and comfortable looking!
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