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Old 10-21-2014, 07:32 PM   #11
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nice! so that's just small wood screws holding 'er in place? I'm thinking the ply is strong enough without hitting a backing frame piece?

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Old 10-21-2014, 09:07 PM   #12
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No way that ply is strong enough. Don't even think about it... its surely an eighth of an inch thick, if that.

You must tap lightly along with a hammer until the sound tells you there's no hollow and a frame cross piece is behind the panel to screw into. Biggest worry is using too long a screw and popping through the bathroom shell, especially when drilling tiny pilot holes.

Thought about glue, but glue destroys the finish if you ever need to take the thing down. Thought about velcro but I doubt it will have long life and besides, you are still using glue. If I ever need to take this rack down I can always cover the tiny screw holes with putty or maybe better, the same brown buttons the factory uses.

The wood's a scrap cherry piece. Four coats of Deft clear semi-gloss brushing lacquer, my favorite cabinet finish.
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Old 10-21-2014, 09:25 PM   #13
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Myron,

Nice work, and a lovely piece of cherry...

A question regarding the finish: I've never used a lacquer, always preferred either oil or polyurethane. I believe in the days gone by, lacquers would go white when exposed to water. Is that still true? Are you concerned a wet jacket might leave a mark, or does it take a lot more water than that to leave a mark?
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Old 10-21-2014, 09:32 PM   #14
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Nice looking piece Myron. The 19 must have more framing members in that bathroom wall than the 17. I don't think I'd hit any framing on my 17 where you found it on yours Myron. On the 17 I think if I put it all the way to the top I can angle the screws up to hit the framing piece along the top -- at least according to my tap tapping..
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got it! thanks!

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Myron,

Nice work, and a lovely piece of cherry...

A question regarding the finish: I've never used a lacquer, always preferred either oil or polyurethane. I believe in the days gone by, lacquers would go white when exposed to water. Is that still true? Are you concerned a wet jacket might leave a mark, or does it take a lot more water than that to leave a mark?
No, Deft CWF is water resistant. In a former life I worked at a paint store and we sold a lot of it. One bar owner even used it to refinish a bar top. Good stuff.
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nice! so that's just small wood screws holding 'er in place? I'm thinking the ply is strong enough without hitting a backing frame piece?

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Sometimes you can find the framing pieces behind the ply by looking for a row of the little staples ETI uses to tack on the ply...scan across the surface at a steep angle and you might pick them up.....
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Old 10-22-2014, 08:27 AM   #18
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I too put up a chrome coat hook bar where Myron did ages ago. A great spot for one. I had looked at the Umbra, but found them too fiddly, preferring to have my hook at the ready, and not folded away.

I think all the bathrooms will have a framing member along the top of the wall to attach to.
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For cabinets or tables I apply 6 coats. No water worries, like Rbryan sez, and since its lacquer each coat dries fast enough (almost too fast) to finish a job in a day. The really great thing about that is unlike polyurethane wood doesn't look coated, and it's dry before the bugs and the dust realize it.
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I've enjoyed and followed your posts for quite sometime. Did I miss one where you apparently lowered your bathroom door to allow for better venting?

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