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Old 11-07-2018, 03:58 PM   #1
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Under belly foam.

I picked up my new 19 yesterday and am on my 2nd day camping. Everything is great, but to my surprise, there was no underbelly spray foam as I expected. When I initially asked for a quote, I asked for it, and it was on the initial quote, but never made it on the build sheet. I missed it and so did they..oh well. So I'm trying to decide if I want to get a kit and insulate it myself, or just let it go. I did get extra insulation and double pane sliders.....thoughts?
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:01 PM   #2
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If you paid for the foam could you just drive the trailer back to Escape and have them apply the foam?
Just saw that you said it never made it to the build sheet. Maybe ask what they would charge to do it now. They have the most experience in applying foam to these trailers!
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:13 PM   #3
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No never paid for it. That offered to do it the next day for $800, but I was on a timetable, and couldn't come back. So now trying to decide to go back one day, do it myself, ...or forget about it. Would be interested in knowing how other feel about the benefits of the foam
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:19 PM   #4
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We added the foam option to our 19' because we camp, hooked up to electric, heated water hose, heated water stanchion, etc) in the winter. The foam insulation reduces heat loss through the floor quite significantly, and protects the water line that runs from the driver's to the passenger's side of the trailer, in the raised area immediately aft of the kitchen.

If you chose double-pane windows and extra insulation to protect from heat loss, rather than heat gain, the foam would be helpful.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:24 PM   #5
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Plus it protects the undercarriage from road debris, you are so close, compared to others (3000 miles away, thank you) that I would take it back for the factory to install and ask for the price on the initial quote.
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Old 11-07-2018, 04:34 PM   #6
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We got the foam thinking it as a good underside protection.. since we never have a trailer before I can't tell you how it compares to.. I just know it's very quiet inside (no more being woken up by the birds in the early AM) and it stays cool/warm...
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Old 11-07-2018, 05:51 PM   #7
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We have the foam. It makes the floor a bit more stable too, less noise, as well as the added thermal and sound insulation. I'd get the factory to do it later.
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Old 11-07-2018, 08:51 PM   #8
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We have the foam and find it worthwhile. Keeps the floor warmer in cold weather, helps keep the trailer cool in hot weather, helps to muffle loud outdoor noises, and protects the underbody from damage due to road debris. It also acts as flotation in high water events.
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Old 11-07-2018, 09:42 PM   #9
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If you search the forum there are people that have purchased sheet foam and jammed it between the frame and glued it to the bottom. A little cheaper and you can get the thickness you want. However it does not cover tanks and the floor over the tanks.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:32 AM   #10
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Warmer floor, quieter, protection of plumbing and tanks. I am glad we got it. I would do a drive back to Chilliwack if I were you, maybe combining it with a camping trip.

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Old 11-08-2018, 03:47 PM   #11
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I picked up my new 19 yesterday and am on my 2nd day camping. Everything is great, but to my surprise, there was no underbelly spray foam as I expected. When I initially asked for a quote, I asked for it, and it was on the initial quote, but never made it on the build sheet. I missed it and so did they..oh well. So I'm trying to decide if I want to get a kit and insulate it myself, or just let it go. I did get extra insulation and double pane sliders.....thoughts?
The floor becomes the weak link if you have upgraded insulation/windows everywhere else. As many others have stated, quieter, and we can confirm the trailer is easy to heat when weather gets cold if you have the insulation.
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Old 11-08-2018, 04:09 PM   #12
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I picked up my new 19 yesterday and am on my 2nd day camping. Everything is great, but to my surprise, there was no underbelly spray foam as I expected. When I initially asked for a quote, I asked for it, and it was on the initial quote, but never made it on the build sheet. I missed it and so did they..oh well. So I'm trying to decide if I want to get a kit and insulate it myself, or just let it go. I did get extra insulation and double pane sliders.....thoughts?

Someone on here used sheets of foam and insulated the floor themselves. I did a search and did not find the magic combination of terms to bring it up. I imagine there are a few on here that remember who is was and can bring the postings right up.
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Old 11-08-2018, 05:24 PM   #13
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Here are the photos of that diy sheet foam install that I had saved.
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I believe it was Ron in BC that did the foam floor.
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Someone on here used sheets of foam and insulated the floor themselves. I did a search and did not find the magic combination of terms to bring it up. I imagine there are a few on here that remember who is was and can bring the postings right up.
It was Ron: Adding underfloor insulation
... but he only did the forward part, not under the tanks.
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Old 11-08-2018, 05:40 PM   #16
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Yup, that was me. I put a priority on the forward area because when you're sitting at the dinette in cold weather with sock feet it's nice to have an insulated floor.

I don't put much priority at the rear because the storage area under the bed is about R zero, even with the extra insulation. Things like the hatch are at exterior ambient temperature. One reason that I insulated the underside of my bed base.

I'm not sure that underfloor insulation has any effect on exterior noise. I've had trailers with and without double glazed windows and it's my view that the largest reduction in exterior noise comes with the double glazed windows.

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Old 11-09-2018, 05:15 AM   #17
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I would get it before the underside gets too exposed to road conditions. Quieter and offers protection.
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Old 11-09-2018, 12:21 PM   #18
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I am currently looking at doing the spray foam myself. There are a few companies that have closed cell foam kits for around $300.
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Old 11-09-2018, 12:31 PM   #19
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One advantage of using spray foam is you won't end up with air gaps between the structure and the foam itself. It even stiffens a structure after it's applied. I'd worry about air and/or water getting between anything else. That could encourage rot, bugs, ice damage, etc,...
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Old 11-14-2018, 02:45 PM   #20
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Foam

We had a 17B but wanted the insulation package with double glazed windows. So traded in our old 17B for a new one with the winter package.

Best decision we made. Less moisture on windows in the winter. Less use of propane furnace when dry camping and most of all warmer feet.Also cooler in the summer.

Foam is they way to go and I would get ETI to do it if you can. They know where things are and what is vulnerable, when considering foam placement.
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