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Old 12-10-2016, 10:53 PM   #11
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Space-wise, it sounds like the solar charge controller can probably go on top of the black tank and the inverter/charger can fit in the main area.
Escape has used two different brands of solar charge controller, but both are shallow panel-mounted devices, with displays and controls on the exposed face. I don't see this packaging on top of the black tank; perhaps there is space between the inboard face of the black tank and the dinette seat cabinet face?
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Old 12-10-2016, 10:54 PM   #12
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It'll mean running some big cables between the two sides, but that should be pretty doable.
There are a few options for routing cables:
  1. down through the floor and back up again, perhaps with a cable tray between the floor penetrations
  2. on top of the floor level through a box at the front edge of the floor space, against the front wall
  3. between the trailer floor and a raised floor, if you get the dinette raised (complete with raised floor)
  4. ... and probably more
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Old 12-11-2016, 01:32 PM   #13
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Escape has used two different brands of solar charge controller, but both are shallow panel-mounted devices, with displays and controls on the exposed face. I don't see this packaging on top of the black tank; perhaps there is space between the inboard face of the black tank and the dinette seat cabinet face?
I'm probably going all-in on Victron since it all hooks together. Their solar controller is 5.1"x7.4"x2.8". If there's 3" above the black tank it should fit nicely, but any less and I guess I'd have to find a new location for it. Worst case I suppose it can go in with the batteries.

For the wiring between benches, I'd lean towards a box or tube or something along where the floor and wall meet. I'd rather minimize the number of holes I put in the shell if possible
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Old 12-11-2016, 02:11 PM   #14
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There is 3" available there, depending on how they mount the EMS, behind it is open. Also I have removed that front panel in my other Escape 19 when installing my wood floor, there is some wiggle room there also.
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Old 12-11-2016, 03:58 PM   #15
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I'm probably going all-in on Victron since it all hooks together. Their solar controller is 5.1"x7.4"x2.8". If there's 3" above the black tank it should fit nicely...
That makes sense. Victron's BlueSolar PWM controllers have buttons and displays on them (which would be hidden buried on top of the tank), so I assume you're planning on the BlueSolar MPPT 100/30 or 100/50... and one of their monitoring products such as the ColorControl panel or mobile app for display. It would be a nicely integrated system.

That suggests having Escape provide solar panels mounting and pre-wiring only.

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That makes sense. Victron's BlueSolar PWM controllers have buttons and displays on them (which would be hidden buried on top of the tank), so I assume you're planning on the BlueSolar MPPT 100/30 or 100/50... and one of their monitoring products such as the ColorControl panel or mobile app for display. It would be a nicely integrated system.

That suggests having Escape provide solar panels mounting and pre-wiring only.


Yep, probably the 100/30 MPPT with CCGX. I know for fixed installations it makes a lot more sense to spend money on more panels than an MPPT controller for a system this small, but given the limited roof space that I have I'd like to get as much as possible from each panel. They claim 30% more vs PWM, but even 10% would make a small difference. Probably also going with AMSolar's high-efficiency 100W panels, but I haven't done a detailed/specific layout yet there. My general plan is to hopefully have Escape prewire to a junction box. Not sure how many panels I can squeeze up there, but I'd like as many as 4x100W.
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Old 12-11-2016, 04:47 PM   #17
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Yep, probably the 100/30 MPPT with CCGX. I know for fixed installations it makes a lot more sense to spend money on more panels than an MPPT controller for a system this small, but given the limited roof space that I have I'd like to get as much as possible from each panel. They claim 30% more vs PWM, but even 10% would make a small difference. Probably also going with AMSolar's high-efficiency 100W panels, but I haven't done a detailed/specific layout yet there. My general plan is to hopefully have Escape prewire to a junction box. Not sure how many panels I can squeeze up there, but I'd like as many as 4x100W.
Here's a photo of my 19' after AM Solar installed two of their 100 watt panels. The middle panel is the 95 watt panel that ETI was using in 2014. When this was done last September, AM Solar felt there was only room for two additional panels. I suspect you could get more panels on the roof if you rotated them ninety degrees. Doing so would require some customization of the panel mounting because of the "step" in the roof contour.

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Here's a photo of my 19' after AM Solar installed two of their 100 watt panels. The middle panel is the 95 watt panel that ETI was using in 2014. When this was done last September, AM Solar felt there was only room for two additional panels. I suspect you could get more panels on the roof if you rotated them ninety degrees. Doing so would require some customization of the panel mounting because of the "step" in the roof contour.

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Thanks, seeing the layout helps a lot. I think you're right about the 90-degree rotation. Are those the regular 100W panels, or the smaller high-efficiency ones? And do you know the dimensions on that 95W panel? (Or the dimensions of the space it's in, either one). Regardless, looks like there's at least room for 3x100W or maybe 2x160W
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Thanks, seeing the layout helps a lot. I think you're right about the 90-degree rotation. Are those the regular 100W panels, or the smaller high-efficiency ones? And do you know the dimensions on that 95W panel? (Or the dimensions of the space it's in, either one). Regardless, looks like there's at least room for 3x100W or maybe 2x160W
AM Solar panels are the smaller high-efficiency ones. Existing panel is 21" x 41". In my opinion, that's not the best location for a panel as part of it is shaded by either the air conditioner shroud or MaxxFan hood most all the time. Here's another shot of the roof from a different angle.

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Don & Cheryl, BEAUTIFUL website. Thanks so much for posting and sharing. I'd love to relive your amazing trips some day. Dale
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