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Old 03-23-2016, 05:33 PM   #11
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The only real challenge is replacing the copper propane line as there should not be any propane pipe joints within the trailer except for the connection to the cooktop.
Can you elaborate Chris? I've never checked the connection from the original cooktop to the gas line. Are you saying it's not a 3/8" flare, or that it isn't going to reach the Dickinson's fitting?
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Old 03-23-2016, 05:59 PM   #12
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I think what he is saying that the new and old connection must be the same, no modifying the tubing length or adding a connection is allowed. The size of the tubing should be the same.
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Old 03-23-2016, 06:23 PM   #13
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The tubing size is fine, but was not long enough for the installation of the Dickinson that Chris did. He needed to splice in a longer line, and had to make the splice outside of the trailer, as the only connection allowed inside is the one at an appliance.
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Old 03-23-2016, 06:37 PM   #14
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Can you elaborate Chris? I've never checked the connection from the original cooktop to the gas line. Are you saying it's not a 3/8" flare, or that it isn't going to reach the Dickinson's fitting?
I will do my best here. The existing copper pipe is bent thru several 90s to connect to the cooktop stove thru a hole on the left side at the back. The Dickinson connection is at the back right side, therefore the stock pipe will not fit or reach even if it was re-bent. A new 3/8 pipe is needed. The connection on the Dickinson is standard 3/8 gas flare, same as the stock cooktop. As mentioned, the new pipe must be connected outside the living area of the trailer, so connecting it where the original was works well. Bending 3/8 pipe is fairly easy with a hand bender.
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Old 03-23-2016, 07:03 PM   #15
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So it looks like there are two potential gas line issues:
  1. The stock Escape line is set up for the stock stove, so is unlikely to reach a different location used by any other stove; that means a new line (all the way to under the floor to avoid extra connections) is needed. This takes work, but as long as the time and/or cost is planned for, it doesn't seem like a big problem. If Escape installs your non-stock cooktop, it is non-issue for the owner.
  2. The Escape tubing will be 3/8" (nominal) copper gas line, which can readily be terminated in a flare, but a non-stock cooktop might use a different connection... especially if it is built for a market other than North American homes or RVs. If an adapter is required to connect 3/8" copper to the stove, that would be an extra and possibly not allowed connection. A potential fix might be doing the adapting below floor level.

This all looks quite manageable if a different cooktop is important.
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Thanks Chris and all. So it won't reach. Got it.
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Old 03-24-2016, 01:56 PM   #17
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Just an FYI...When looking at btu ratings, be aware that if the rating is given for natural gas when converted to propane the btu rating will be decreased by approximately 20%.
This depends on what the limiting factor is in the stove design. If it is fuel mass flow rate, then that would make sense. Propane is much more dense, so there's no problem getting enough fuel through, and in the specific case of the Summit cooktop that is proposed here, the manual's page on conversion shows that the maximum output off all burners sizes is the same on either propane or natural gas.

Even better news is that the smaller burner on the two-burner model turns down lower with propane (1200 BTU/hr) than it does with natural gas (1400 BTU/hr), while hitting the same highest rate (3400 BTU/hr) with either fuel. The larger burner runs 2400 (on low) to 8350 (on high) BTU/hr on either fuel.

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... have learned from a Verona rep that good simmer range by definition is 500-600 BTU's which is hard to find in better residential units.
The Summit's smaller burner is twice that on low, and the larger burner is four times that rate.
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Old 03-24-2016, 06:47 PM   #18
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It sure does. Did ETI do that install?
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Another possibility - the Ramblewood 2 burner sold on Amazon. Battery electric ignition, sealed burners, good BTU output and similar cutout size to the others mentioned. Only two issues I see are that it's definitely not a flush unit (so no cover that's flush with the counter for extra space) and the fitting would need a 1/2" to 3/8 adapter, or to be a correct install the supply pipe would need to be 1/2". Nice looking. Comes with a tough looking pressure regulator but in this case you wouldn't use it.

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