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Old 09-19-2015, 08:24 PM   #1
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Wifi and Cellular Boosting

The build sheet is coming due and I need to make some final decisions about what to buy and where to have it installed to get the absolutely best wifi and cellular service possible. (We'll be working from the road.)

My goal is to have a workstation in the U-Shaped dinette area of a 21.

It looks like the best wifi boosting option is the WifiRanger Elite Pack (https://www.wifiranger.com/shop/prod...ack-flat-mount).

It looks like the best cell booster is the weBoost Drive 4G-M with an external antenna. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=ATVPDKIKX0DER

I'm confused about two things:

1) The WifiRanger is used with the Go2, which is wireless router that sets up a secure wireless network in the trailer. Cool. But isn't the weBoost 4G-M also a wireless router that broadcasts to the inside of the trailer? It seems redundant. What am I missing?

2) From other threads, it sounds like the best place to install all the electronics is to the left of the refrigerator. We'll cut a hole (ouch!) through the roof and install the WifiRanger and weBoost antennae somewhere on top. Any suggestions for where? I don't have any concept of the layout of the top of the RV. Will the two antennae interfere with each other?

Thanks for your help! I've bought books, read other posts, and I'm still fuzzy on these matters.
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Old 09-19-2015, 09:55 PM   #2
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Wifi and 4G operate on different frequencies; shouldn't interfere with each other. The weBoost is a cellphone amplifier; don't know if uses IP addressing or not like a true router does.
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Old 09-19-2015, 10:18 PM   #3
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Thanks, Charlie. Do you know: Is the signal a cell phone receives for data different from the signal it receives for talking? Sometimes I have good signal for talking and no data (and vice versa).
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In 4G systems, the circuit-switched infrastructure is abandoned and only a packet-switched network is provided, while 3G systems require both packet-switched and circuit-switched network nodes, i.e. two infrastructures in parallel. This means that in 4G, traditional voice calls are replaced by IP telephony. Another thing to note, is that while voice requires less bandwidth, it requires a continuous connection. Whereas data can be packetized.
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Wow. Impressive knowledge! I really appreciate your help. So is this right:

The Wifi Ranger/ Go2 amplify and broadcast a Wifi signal.
The weBoost amplifies and broadcasts a cell signal.

The boosted cell signal is then picked up by a phone to be used either as voice or data. Cell phones can convert the cell signal to wifi and broadcast it, creating a "hotspot." The wifi created by the hotspot can be inputted into the Go2 wireless router like any other wifi and broadcast throughout the trailer.

Whew! I hope I'm getting closer.
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If you look on the Escapees forum (not in any way associated with Escape Trailer) they are fulltimers and many have used Wifi Ranger and everything else. You can find many more comments on it.
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Wow. Impressive knowledge! I really appreciate your help. So is this right:

The Wifi Ranger/ Go2 amplify and broadcast a Wifi signal.
The weBoost amplifies and broadcasts a cell signal.

The boosted cell signal is then picked up by a phone to be used either as voice or data. Cell phones can convert the cell signal to wifi and broadcast it, creating a "hotspot." The wifi created by the hotspot can be inputted into the Go2 wireless router like any other wifi and broadcast throughout the trailer.

Whew! I hope I'm getting closer.
I use my cell phone as my hotspot instead of a MIFI device as the MIFI would count as another device on my plan; I'd have to pay a monthly charge that I avoid just using the phone/hotspot with our laptops.
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On this trip I blew my entire data ( 400 meg ) by streaming a 20 minute video newscast through my iPhone.
Wasn't thinking.
Anyway, on my grandfathered cell plan it costs me 2 cents a meg for overage, so I'll just not watch streaming video.
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2) From other threads, it sounds like the best place to install all the electronics is to the left of the refrigerator. We'll cut a hole (ouch!) through the roof and install the WifiRanger and weBoost antennae somewhere on top.
I can't help with the technology questions, but have you considered mounting everything on a removable pole attached to the rear bumper? Then install a double cable hatch on the rear... run inside wire from there. This is what I'm considering doing... future traveler!

My reasoning is technology changes rapidly. Mounting holes may get bigger/smaller. I don't want holes on the roof! Or maybe, attach something like the new solar panel mount and attach to that...

Kinda thinking out loud here...
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I I use my cell phone as my hotspot instead of a MIFI device as the MIFI would count as another device on my plan; I'd have to pay a monthly charge that I avoid just using the phone/hotspot with our laptops.
We're on the same wavelength there. I find my cell phone, in the Weboost cradle in the truck, and therefore still boosting the cell signal, works just fine as a hotspot for my netbook in the trailer. I don't understand the desire to install an antenna on the trailer.

Donna, couldn't agree more. Technology changes so fast now, today's electronic gizzmo is tomorrow's landfill. Keeping flexibility with a small hatch is a good way of dealing with future needs that you're not even aware of yet. I didn't put in a dedicated hatch but I did drill an 1 1/2" hole, with a grommet, in the floor of a dinette locker. This gives me flexibility to run new wires etc. in and out as required.

Also, yes, a socket welded to either the back bumper or, in my case, the top of the spare tire holder, allows for an aluminum tube to be inserted to hold whatever you want; an antenna, I use it for my TV antenna, or a flag pole etc.

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