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Old 05-28-2016, 08:09 PM   #61
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Old 05-28-2016, 08:12 PM   #62
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And here I thought Dave was a whippersnapper !
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Old 05-28-2016, 10:04 PM   #63
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Just based on the area and thickness of the box, it must have at least 10 kg (22 pounds) of material in it, plus hardware, plus any floor reinforcement, plus the coating on the front. Someone bought one for retrofitting and had it delivered; I can't remember who that was but they must have picked it up and would know. Of course, Reace must know.
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Saw that post where it was shipped to a forum member but no weights were given. If it's less than 50 pounds I would be happy, will post what escape office says when I hear from them next week. Thank you Brian.
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Why are you concerned with a couple of pounds of weight on the front of the 21"? By the time you load your "stuff" that tongue will be getting a little light without the box and with the fresh water and batteries behind the axle it may be too light and sway will result. My 21' weighted 500# on the tongue and 3800# at the axles and towed like a dream without any sway control. Anything that goes in the box you can put under the bed but it will still add to the front weight, that little 25-50 lbs is worth it's weight in gold as Dave mentions to keep your interior clean.
Have you decided on a tow vehicle?
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Hi Jim. I won't be loading the box with much nor heavy.
I have a Ram 1500 with 3.6 Pentstar 6 cyl and 8 speed, 3.55 axle, 2 wheel drive, anti-slip differential, larger fuel tank and towing package. Trip to bay area just freeway averaged 24.5 going 25mpg coming back, 800 miles total. No trailer of course.
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Hi Jim. I won't be loading the box with much nor heavy.
I have a Ram 1500 with 3.6 Pentstar 6 ans 8 speed, 3.55 axle, larger fuel tank and towing package.
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Why are you concerned with a couple of pounds of weight on the front of the 21"? By the time you load your "stuff" that tongue will be getting a little light without the box and with the fresh water and batteries behind the axle it may be too light and sway will result. My 21' weighted 500# on the tongue and 3800# at the axles and towed like a dream without any sway control.
A hundred pounds less than that 500 pound tongue weight would still be over 10% of the trailer weight; in an properly designed and loaded trailer that should not create a sway issue, even without any add-on "sway control" hardware.

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Anything that goes in the box you can put under the bed but it will still add to the front weight...
Closer to the front means more tongue weight, which matters to many tow vehicles. It shouldn't matter so much to a truck, but many of the full-sized trucks used to tow trailers are not really working trucks.

Adding 50 pounds here and 50 pounds there is how we got from lightweight trailers and cars to two-ton "lightweight" trailers and three-ton trucks as tow vehicles.
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Hi Jim. I won't be loading the box with much nor heavy.
So, what is the critical issue with the weight of box itself?
Don't understand.
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Hi Brian and Glenn. Yes weight gain comes quick if not watched. Weight on the tongue is mighty close to ground zero, the hitch ball. Correcting by adding weight behind the axles especially to the rear will exacerbate sway. Best stability is having heavy stuff near center.

Was afraid the box would be much heavier than estimated earlier today. Biggest draw to the box is lower front end protection. We travel fairly light and really don't need the extra space but will use it for hoses, electrical cords, feathers, etc. Truck has a 2 door panel top easy to load.

I will keep the tongue close to 10% more or less so it definitely won't be 500 pounds unless adding more helps stability. If the box was magically going inside the cabin near the axles, I would not give it a second though.
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