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05-27-2014, 08:22 PM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: Fruitland Park, Florida
Trailer: 2021 Pleasure Way OnTour 2.0
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I have a tear drop trailer and the battery isolator was a option on the trailer. It prevents the trailer from discharging the car battery when the car engine of off. Without a battery isolator, we were advised to discount the trailer plug when shutting off the car. The battery isolator can be installed on the trailer of car.
I know the electrical system is more sophisticated on the Escape so maybe someone can chime in as to it's usefulness..
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05-28-2014, 09:05 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Antelope, California
Trailer: 2009 17B "Suite Escape" pulled by a 2020 Toyota Sienna
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Is that the same as the cut-off switch ?
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05-28-2014, 09:44 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Solvang, California
Trailer: 2016 21' Escape (usetaowna a 19, a Burro and 2 Casitas)
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Ditto's on the 19'. Very easy to tow, I can't imagine a 17 would be much different. Second axle eases the bumps and is great insurance in case of a flat. You'll like a little extra room in the 19.
Greg
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05-28-2014, 11:13 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Central, Pennsylvania
Trailer: Escape#5 2022 E19
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Battery cut off switch disconnects the trailer from the trailer battery (except for solar) and the battery isolator disconnects your tow vehicle battery from your rv.
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05-28-2014, 11:15 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Maple Ridge, BC, British Columbia
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Just heard back from ETI that the toilet shut off valve is a no go. Only available on the 21' as an option.
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05-28-2014, 11:28 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Antelope, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cpaharley2008
Battery cut off switch disconnects the trailer from the trailer battery (except for solar) and the battery isolator disconnects your tow vehicle battery from your rv.
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Thanks. That is helpful.
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05-28-2014, 12:21 PM
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
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Has anyone had the "isolator" installed?
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05-28-2014, 12:54 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia
Trailer: 2009 Escape 17B 2020 Toyota Highlander XLE
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Check with your car dealer. I think most vehicles these days already cut off power to the trailer when the ignition is off.
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05-28-2014, 08:15 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gbaglo
Check with your car dealer. I think most vehicles these days already cut off power to the trailer when the ignition is off.
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Likely yes, if they are wired for towing from the factory (which means roughly just most trucks and some SUVs). If not, you are having it added yourself, and you determine this design feature.
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05-29-2014, 12:33 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Antelope, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian B-P
Likely yes, if they are wired for towing from the factory (which means roughly just most trucks and some SUVs). If not, you are having it added yourself, and you determine this design feature.
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I do not know if I have this cut-off feature on my 2005 Sienna w/tow package. Will I need to contact Toyota to find out?
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05-29-2014, 01:33 PM
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Location: Oswego, New York
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The Sienna tow package does not include a 7 pin connector, in fact, unless I'm wrong, it does not include wiring for even a 4 pin connector, although there is a harness available that provides 4 pin wiring.
If you have a 7 pin connector (necessary for both brakes & 12V power to the trailer), it must have been a user add on. The best way to tell if they included a solenoid to cut off power when the engine is stopped it to check the voltage between pins 1 (Ground) & 4 (12V Battery). If you measure 12V with the ignition off, no solenoid, if it goes off when the ignition is switched off, you have one.
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05-29-2014, 06:50 PM
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I believe that mine came with a 4 pin connector along with the hitch that had a 1 1/4" receiver. There was no included information regarding the hook-up. I added the 7 pin wiring along with a new hitch only because I needed the WDH and at the time (and maybe even now), there was no WDH that worked with that size receiver.
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05-29-2014, 07:57 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Trailer: 1979 Boler B1700
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandra L
I do not know if I have this cut-off feature on my 2005 Sienna w/tow package. Will I need to contact Toyota to find out?
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Toyota does not offer pre-wiring for any trailer feature on the Sienna (lights, brake control, or battery charging). The factory-installed "towing preparation package" is all durability features (mostly transmission cooling on the 2005), while dealer-installed (or port-installed) accessories include a hitch and a trailer lights wiring package. The wiring package doesn't have any brake control or battery-charging features at all, so if you have either of those they were a custom installation - Toyota won't know anything about any custom installation which may have been done.
My 2004 Sienna's trailer lights wiring package is the dealer-installed accessory. I added trailer brake control and trailer battery charge wiring myself, and I did include an isolation (cut-off) relay so the van and trailer batteries are only connected when the van's engine is running.
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05-29-2014, 08:00 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
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Sorry, I posted the above before seeing the last page of posts. I agree with Jon's comments, and Sandra's 4-pin connector and 1-1/4" hitch receiver (and the lack of information) are typical of the dealer-installed accessories.
As far as I know, WD hardware continues to be available only for 2" (or larger) receivers.
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05-31-2014, 12:36 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Maple Ridge, BC, British Columbia
Trailer: 2014 17B;2012 Nissan Frontier SV 4
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Liz and I headed out to Escape today and signed off on the Build Sheet. Thanks to everyone for your comments and interest. Our build sheet changed because of your help.
I'm still confused about the isolator switch. But it occurs to me that questions like this are why I am happy one of my son-in-laws is a licensed mechanic. I'll ask him what I need.
Thanks again. Larry
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05-31-2014, 08:17 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: N/A, Indiana
Trailer: Escape
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The "isolated" electrical circuit is in the tow vehicle. If the TV does not have a towing package a 12V circuit is added to provide voltage to the trailer (pin 4). A solenoid or relay is turned on or off using voltage from the ignition switch. When the ignition switch is in the on position the solenoid or relay is energized and allows voltage to pass through it. When the ignition switch is off the relay or solenoid is not energized. The purpose is to keep the tow vehicles battery from being depleted by the trailer.
There are different wiring options depending on how your vehicle is equipped.
http://www.etrailer.com/t1-2012_Nissan_Frontier.htm
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