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Old 12-05-2009, 11:53 AM   #1
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Hello everyone,

Our 19’ is scheduled for completion on April 30th 2010. Weather permitting; we plan to drive from Southern Ontario to Chilliwack the last week of April to take delivery. We are downsizing from a 34’ 5th wheel and plan to use the trailer in retirement, as an escape to warmer climates. In fact, if it’s not already in use, we might consider naming the trailer Winter as in “Winter Escape”. Retirement, unfortunately, is a couple of years away.

This past fall, Alf the escape artist from the N.S. of Lake Erie, was kind enough to give us a tour of his 5.0. We were very impressed with the fit and finish and particularly liked the idea of small light weight trailer that would be towable by more fuel efficient vehicles. For now we will use our existing tow vehicle a 2009 Silverado 2500 HD Duramax diesel. A little over kill and not very fuel efficient.

The forum has been very helpful to us as we have worked through the list of options. We have selected most of the standard items but one thing I think we will change is the cushion color. We are also undecided about the mattress. Should we upgrade to a thicker one?

The locking tool box on the tongue to house the batteries and hold stuff sounds like a good idea. I read that the Cabela’s slim line seems to be the box of choice. Has anyone found a Canadian made alternative? Are there downsides to installing this box? Will it look out of place? Does it put too much additional weight on the tongue when loaded? Reace did indicate that it could impair the turning radius a little. Would it eliminate the need for stone guards?

Bob and Irene
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:05 PM   #2
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congrats to you both, and good questions, that will be answered "post haste" by some of our "19' parents". I'm sure when the 1st 19 with box comes off the lot, there will be some great pictures.
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:22 PM   #3
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Hi: Bob& Irene...Thanks for the nod...the pleasure was all mine. We have an 8" thick 60X80 full queen size "memory foam mattress" instead of the stock 60X76 RV queen one. IMHO, "there are no other KINDZ". The mattress really does refresh your memory!!!
I believe the first owners swapped it out at the factory as well as having the dual fuel elect./propane water heater installed.
The 19'ers have a full 60X80 queen size bed platform so you can install any mattress thickness you want. Alf
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Old 12-05-2009, 12:44 PM   #4
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Hi Bob-

We ordered our Escape with the dual 6v batteries, and are glad we did; we've spent as many as 4 nights on the batteries alone and still had a very good charge. I figure they'd easily be good for 1 or 2 more nights with good power management. We also went with all LED lighting, that helps. The dual 6v's are housed in the trailer under the right front bench, I don't know if single 12v's are mounted there or not, but suspect they are. That location doesn't detract from the ample storage space in the 19. Further, we chose the dual propane tanks, and that takes most of the available tongue space. As far as a box goes, I know of a couple of manufacturers here in the States who will make custom sized aluminum boxes of whatever size you specify. Their principle use is in whitewater multiday rafting trips. They are light, sturdy, and of course, water tight. They are not cheap, however -- maybe $400 (?) American, or more . If you're interested, I can give you the websites.

My wife and I (and the dog, when she can get away with it) are very satisfied with the stock 60x80 mattress, and we're particular about what we sleep on (crummy backs). We figured if we weren't happy with it we could add a 2" memory foam topper. We have a couple of weeks worth of nights on the mattress, and see no need for the topper.

I know you'll enjoy your Escape, it's a superior product.

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Old 12-05-2009, 01:24 PM   #5
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We added the 2" topper the second night, and have found it to sleep just like our Tempur-pedic at home. With the 19' you don't have any height limitations, as we do in the 5.0. So, like Bruce, try it, you may like it! If not, there's a Wally-World just down the road, and they'll be glad to sell you a topper.
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Old 12-05-2009, 01:31 PM   #6
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Bob, we will be picking up our 17B net Tuesday, and we are bringing the Cabela's box with us for Reace to install. I'll be taking pictures of the installation, and also looking at the 19 footer in production that will also be using this box. If I can, I'll post them here so you can see what they look like. I can't tell you how well it will work until we use it a while, but should be able to report back before you have to make your decision.

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Old 12-05-2009, 02:02 PM   #7
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Bob, congrats to you and Irene on your purchase. You will be very happy with it. Your story sounds like ours, downsizing for a bigger stick-built ourselves, with the intention of longer trips upon retirement, which is a few years out for us yet.

I am curious to see what the setup of the tanks and box looks like. I plan to do something similar in time myself.
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Old 12-06-2009, 01:52 AM   #8
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Bob,

As far as the added weight, the box itself is really light for its size, maybe 25-30 pounds at the most. Someone mentioned about the location of the batteries under the front seat and that there was no space left on the tongue with the duel propane tanks. The 19' is no longer being built to this configuration. The two propane bottles are being mounted perpendicular to the frame vs. inline with the frame which creates about 16-18" of space between the propane bottles and body of the trailer. Reace is now installing the batteries in this location, but in my case the box will be installed in this location with the batteries in the box. Reace is mounting the box about 6" above the frame for clearance in case my parents decide they want a weight distribution hitch installed. The box will act as a rock guard to some degree in this configuration, however I will most likely get a sheet of diamond plate and cut it up and bend / mold it into shape to extend the boxes perimeter (weld it into place) to act as a full rock guard and to make the box fit the trailer like a glove.

Because the box will extend the front corners of the trailer, it might be possible if you were turning really sharp that the tow vehicles rear corners may come into contact with the box. Again, this would only occur during an extreme turn, in which you could weld on a stop near the hitch that would act as a bumper or just extend the hitch…but I will just wait and see how it turns out and go from there.

BTW, I looked into custom boxes; it will cost you BIG BUCKS! I will take pictures of the trailer when it is completed and give a full report on the box and how well it works, probably in the next 2-3 weeks.
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Hi: Bob& Irene... and congrats. on your new 19" Escape!!! I was just curious about the level of your tow Did you talk to Reace about it? I don't know what the tongue height of the 19'er is, or how low of a hitch/stinger you can install on your truck. Escape can put on the axle lift and you can use a drop stinger and then if you change tugs in the future it could be readjusted. I know some members here tow with 4X4 Toyota Highlanders and have the axle lift on their trailer. Alf
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Hi: Bob& Irene... and congrats. on your new 19" Escape!!! I was just curious about the level of your tow Did you talk to Reace about it? I don't know what the tongue height of the 19'er is, or how low of a hitch/stinger you can install on your truck. Escape can put on the axle lift and you can use a drop stinger and then if you change tugs in the future it could be readjusted. I know some members here tow with 4X4 Toyota Highlanders and have the axle lift on their trailer. Alf
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Why would someone tailor the height of the trailer to the tow vehicle? Why not just get an adjustable hitch? If you change tow vehicles, just spend the 5 minutes adjusting the height of the hitch. Unless someone has a vehicle that is jacked up several feet, the adjustable hitch will work for any factory vehicle.
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