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Old 06-20-2010, 10:10 AM   #1
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4 season?

Hi again all,

I asked Tammy this question already, but thought I'd get input from forum members too.
Can the Escape be 4-season like the Bigfoots? I'm sure hoping so since we are wanting to full-time in it for 20+ years. I just realized this just isn't an issue of insulation. I'm sure with the insulation upgrade an Escape can be just as tight as a Bigfoot. I think it has to do with all the tanks being heated and enclosed inside the trailer. I prefer Escape for the lighter weight. But Bigfoot is up on our list now because of all the used ones for sale online and also this 4 season issue.
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Old 06-20-2010, 06:34 PM   #2
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Re: 4 season?

If you are planning on living in it in constant freezing temperatures, you would either have to do it dry, or at least install a water tank inside, and insulate and heat the sewage tanks.
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Old 06-20-2010, 07:04 PM   #3
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Re: 4 season?

Yep, the gray water and fresh water tanks are outside, and the discharge on the black water isn't heated, so you'd have to make some other arrangements there. Inside heat is no problem, but if you're gonna be in a lot of cold weather, your water tanks are a definite factor.
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Old 06-21-2010, 11:22 AM   #4
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Re: 4 season?

or just head south for the winter...
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Old 06-21-2010, 11:47 AM   #5
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or just head south for the winter...
No need for a trailer then, just stay at Jeff's place.
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Old 06-21-2010, 01:52 PM   #6
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Re: 4 season?

They check, but don't check out.. could be a great movie!
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Old 07-06-2010, 06:56 PM   #7
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Re: 4 season?

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or just head south for the winter...
Winter? This January we delayed our first egg trip to So Cal / Az because the weather was warmer here than there!

In '96 we tent camped at Bryce Canyon in July and it got to 25°F during the night.

Go figure.
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Old 07-11-2012, 03:36 PM   #8
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Re: 4 season?

So at what temperature is the Escape 5.0 good to?

I mean if it's getting down around 28-30F at night but back up above freezing during the day, for a week or ten days in a row......would that be OK?

Trying to educate myself to this 5.0 as we're considering pulling the trigger on this model and also wanting to full time. Down around freezing or a bit lower is our preference but I'm sure that it'll happen once in a great while.

I've already considered the heavy insulation and the upgraded windows and I don't expect that to be an issue but will the plumbing still work (without any issues or breaks) in an unexpected night freeze?
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Old 07-14-2012, 06:28 PM   #9
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Re: 4 season?

I think the issue will be what cg facilities will be available below freezing. The Escape can be outfitted to handle cold weather, but unless you have heated water available
and a heated water hose, your camping will be limited by what you can carry.
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:57 PM   #10
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Re: 4 season?

You will be comfortable...it's the outside water line that is the problem.
I've seen on the forum about adding insulation and heating pads for the water tank and waste water tank. If I were going to be doing regular below freezing camping, I'd get it. Of course, both waste water tanks (grey and black) exit through an outside pipe...prolonged freezing may harm them? The other thing to consider is turning off the water to an outside shower, and draining it.
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