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Old 01-26-2016, 08:38 AM   #1
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Are the opening windows in the loft sliders or awning style? Is there any insulating cover provided for the escape hatch over head. What about insulation under the bed?
Can a shelf be installed between the overheads at the head of the bed? Is there storage space along the sides of the bed along the floor? Thanks for any help....
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Old 01-26-2016, 09:25 AM   #2
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My windows in the loft are awning style and I am very happy I have them rather than fixed windows. I love the fresh air - in almost any temperature. There is some insulation overhead but not the foam. I believe I read someplace eon the Forum a few days ago that they use something special for the ceiling cover. Not sure what it is but there is some insulation there. Yes, there is storage space along the sides of the bed. I store a lot of clothes and (I'm a pillow hog) pillows there. In effect, if I should roll over that far there is no 'falling out of bed' - so to speak.
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Mine is a 2014 TA

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Are the opening windows in the loft sliders or awning style?
Awning style
Is there any insulating cover provided for the escape hatch over head.
No
What about insulation under the bed?
Carpet on plywood (I think)- not sure if there is insulation
Can a shelf be installed between the overheads at the head of the bed?
Don't know but there is cubby hole storage on each side
Is there storage space along the sides of the bed along the floor?
Plenty of storage 'aisle' space on each side
Thanks for any help....
Are you switching to a TA?
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Are you switching to a TA?
The propane tanks must be getting low on the 21'!

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Old 01-26-2016, 09:53 AM   #5
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I'm getting the itch and like skiman says, I do not like to refill my propane tanks....
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Are the opening windows in the loft sliders or awning style? Is there any insulating cover provided for the escape hatch over head. What about insulation under the bed?
Can a shelf be installed between the overheads at the head of the bed? Is there storage space along the sides of the bed along the floor? Thanks for any help....
Dual pane are fixed

No cover, it's a DIY project.

Looks like just the carpet, but a couple of the build pictures make it look like the floor could be a plywood sandwich, which would leave room for some insulation. Hard to tell. See the first 2 pics below.

I asked about a shelf, Reace came up with cubbies instead. Doesn't look too hard of another DIY thing.

Go for it Jim, you have the truck already. On 2nd thought, what are you going to do with the dogs?
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Hi Jim! We are not getting the dual pane windows in the loft area because I have to have good ventilation or I feel claustrophobic. The non dual pane are awning windows to the best of my recollection - from our factory trip last fall. I remember thinking it was a good design for a rainy climate.
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Jim, I’m glad that my wife insisted on the awning windows in the loft, they are actually a benefit for cold weather camping. We have had great success just barely cracking the loft window open with the Max fan in “ceiling fan mode” with that vent cover closed and having little to no condensation during cool, cold weather camping. (The windows are right by your face so most of the condensation goes out the small crack).

The extra room along the side of the bed provides plenty of extra storage and helps with venting condensation. I was planning on adding a layer of reflectix underneath the hypervent but so far have not found it needed, even in cold temps.

Jim B posted the most elegant solution for the escape hatch cover. Chris’s fabric covered reflectix with the rare earth magnets. That is on my spring project list. Scott
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I have the dual-pane non-opening windows in the loft and have zero regrets and no condensation. Crack the large overhead vent a bit and turn on the Maxx fan to exhaust and it pulls plenty of air from the vent down into the loft. Since I sleep with the blinds down, this works for me.
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I have the dual-pane non-opening windows in the loft and have zero regrets and no condensation. Crack the large overhead vent a bit and turn on the Maxx fan to exhaust and it pulls plenty of air from the vent down into the loft. Since I sleep with the blinds down, this works for me.
Hello Donna, the loft of the 5.0 TA is similar to our old Northern Lite truck camper. We had over a decade of cold, sometimes below 0 camping experience when chasing caribou on the haul road and learned what worked for us. On really cold nights we actually cover the escape hatch with an insulated cover to cut down heat loss and condensation, we also keep the max fan running on low with the max vent closed to help retain heat. Cracking the window very slightly has worked very well for us. Trailer stays warmer, not as much heat loss or condensation.

When we were building our trailer I wanted dual pane windows in loft and no exterior shower for our cool, cold weather camping trips. Lori gets what Lori wants, so we have awning windows in the loft and an exterior shower that I have to keep a close eye on when the temps drop on our spring and fall trips.
Had to work with what the better half wanted.

Now if I could get insulated windows that open in the loft everyone would win. Scott

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