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Old 10-05-2014, 12:01 PM   #101
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I think that if I was to consider moving from 2 to 4 batteries, I would also try to fit the additional two batteries on the rear bumper. I really like the storage space in the front box, and to me, filling the box with batteries is a very poor use of space.
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Old 10-05-2014, 05:35 PM   #102
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Steve, I know you have 6Vs but could a 12V be used with the two 6Vs and put three batteries instead of four in the box, thereby still having some weight allowance for blocks and chocks?
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Old 10-05-2014, 05:45 PM   #103
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Could - yes. Good idea - no.

They have different charging requirements and different discharge curves. You would need to install a (marine style) battery bank selection switch for using power. And a smart multi-bank converter/charger for recharging the batteries.
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jamman, there are people who have one 12V instead of the two 6Vs in their Escape. So I suppose someone could have two 12Vs.

But I have seen many claims that two 6Vs are better than one 12V for our purposes.
(Then there are are those who take issue with that.)
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Old 10-05-2014, 08:31 PM   #105
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I have a single 12v group 29 battery and I'm thinking about adding another to double my capacity to about 100 useable amps (260 total) this may allow me to run my refer off 12v while towing with the smaller 95 watt ETI solar panel.
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Old 10-05-2014, 09:29 PM   #106
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jamman, there are people who have one 12V instead of the two 6Vs in their Escape. So I suppose someone could have two 12Vs.

But I have seen many claims that two 6Vs are better than one 12V for our purposes.
(Then there are are those who take issue with that.)
It's not just claims. The amp hours are higher with two 6v vs a single 12v. You can run stuff longer -- that's it.

There's always a trade-off, and here of course it's the space, weight and additional cost.
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Old 10-05-2014, 09:32 PM   #107
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I have a single 12v group 29 battery and I'm thinking about adding another to double my capacity to about 100 useable amps (260 total) this may allow me to run my refer off 12v while towing with the smaller 95 watt ETI solar panel.
Yeah, I don't think you'd have any trouble doing that with such a setup.
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Old 10-05-2014, 11:01 PM   #108
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Steve, I know you have 6Vs but could a 12V be used with the two 6Vs and put three batteries instead of four in the box, thereby still having some weight allowance for blocks and chocks?
The mismatch would not be good, but three identical 12V batteries could be used. Having three would make the issues with getting the batteries to each do their share even worse, so two really big 12V or four smaller-than-usual 6V would be better.

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It's not just claims. The amp hours are higher with two 6v vs a single 12v.
Only because they're bigger in total. For the same total weight and bulk in the same range of batteries (same type and quality), it doesn't matter electrically whether they're split up in groups of three cells (6V) or of six cells (12V). You can use two 12V in parallel of the same size as two 6V in series, and have the same total capacity... but may have problems with keeping them balanced (sharing the charge and load equally). You can also buy one huge 12V battery which weighs twice as much as the typical "golf cart" 6V, and has the same amp-hour capacity as a pair of the 6V... but it's a problem to lift and get into place, and not common (and therefore not cheap).

The popularity of pairs of 6V batteries about the size of those used in Escapes and other RVs is mostly about being the largest manageable size for a person to lift, and being readily available. Both of those are important factors.
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Old 10-06-2014, 12:13 AM   #109
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Well yeah, I'm talking about the common sizes that will easily fit into an Escape. (and easily power my DC fridge which I hope I hope to get ETI to install for me...lol)
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Wouldn't a DC fridge running in extreme hot temps gobble a ton of battery?
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