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Old 10-03-2014, 03:24 PM   #61
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Where are you guys keeping your 4x6 volt batteries. Front box on the 19 or rear bumper on the 17? How much do these batteries weigh and if on the front what is the tongue weight? If on the rear, what about your tongue weight?
With 460 amps storage, your useable is 40% or approximately 200 a/h, so adding the additional solar panels to maintain that 200 a/h adds even more weight. So total maybe 200 - 250 total additional pounds to carry permanently for this set up? IMHO that is a lot of extra weight to tote. Something to consider, your Escape maybe turning into a Bigfoot, weight wise.
Hi Jim! 2 extra batteries is only 130 more pounds in the trailer. I had 4 up front in the box and pulled 2 out to try boon-docking with only 2. I can put the other 2 back in easily. If I go with the DC refer I will add the 2 back but may put them on the back bumper to keep the tongue weight down. However, the rear bumper on the 19' is too close to the trailer to put batteries in a box inside the bumper outline. If I did I would cut the bumper off and move it back a few inches then reattach it with steel platforms inside the outline for the batteries. I would probably run 4 gauge cable back up front. I'm not too worried about balancing amp loads because they are normally so small, however, I would probably take the rear set of batteries offline when I ran my 2500 watt inverter.
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Old 10-03-2014, 03:27 PM   #62
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... I'm not too worried about balancing amp loads because they are normally so small, however, I would probably take the rear set of batteries offline when I ran my 2500 watt inverter.
I agree that if you are resigned to managing two banks of batteries separately, then the wiring considerations are simplified.
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Old 10-04-2014, 12:31 PM   #63
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Excellent questions.


My understanding is that you have a 17B on order.
An Escape 17 (A or B) has the axle set relatively rearward, and so would tend to be front(hitch)-heavy, so Escape puts the battery (or dual batteries) on the rear bumper - I think the 17' is the only Escape model done this way. I don't know that there is enough space for four batteries on the bumper, and even if there is the additional weight would decrease the tongue weight if placed there. If all four go on the tongue instead, it seems likely to me that tongue weight would be too high. Four batteries could be split into the two locations, but there could be a lot of heavy-gauge cable involved, and care would be required in wiring design to keep current balanced between the paralleled batteries.
Well Brian, now that you mentioned the 17B, I guess I better let the cat out of the bag.

We switched a few weeks ago to the 19. The queen bed was the kicker. Tammy and Reace were gracious enough to let us keep our original build date. Also, the amount of fabric we sent them will not have to change by going to the 19. My trip up there next week is mainly to cement my decision.
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Old 10-04-2014, 01:38 PM   #64
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Well Brian, now that you mentioned the 17B, I guess I better let the cat out of the bag.

We switched a few weeks ago to the 19. The queen bed was the kicker. Tammy and Reace were gracious enough to let us keep our original build date. Also, the amount of fabric we sent them will not have to change by going to the 19. My trip up there next week is mainly to cement my decision.
Congrats on the 19' decision. You are going to love it. Remember the 22" door when looking at refers!

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Congrats on the 19' decision. You are going to love it. Remember the 22" door when looking at refers!

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Yeah Steve, I keep coming back to that. The Dometic Americana series fridges don't have near as much reported problems as their RM85xx series do. I believe it's simply because they're designed to operate in higher temps (although they don't have a climate class rating, because they aren't sold in Europe, and it isn't required). If it wasn't for the 22" door, changing to a different Dometic model number would be a simple matter, and a quick fix. 22 3/4" or 23" wide isn't going to cut it.
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Old 10-04-2014, 02:33 PM   #66
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Yeah Steve, I keep coming back to that. The Dometic Americana series fridges don't have near as much reported problems as their RM85xx series do. I believe it's simply because they're designed to operate in higher temps (although they don't have a climate class rating, because they aren't sold in Europe, and it isn't required). If it wasn't for the 22" door, changing to a different Dometic model number would be a simple matter, and a quick fix. 22 3/4" or 23" wide isn't going to cut it.
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The door dimension is a problem, if you need to get a different model through the door... but there's always the back window!

Casita changed the back window years ago, because that's where they put the refrigerator into the trailer and also when it needs to be replaced.

Maybe that would work for you as well Robert?
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Well Brian, now that you mentioned the 17B, I guess I better let the cat out of the bag.

We switched a few weeks ago to the 19.
I wondered about that - I thought you were going larger but your profile said "17B" (corrected since) and some (older) posts confirmed that.

Okay... no batteries on the bumper.
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Old 10-04-2014, 02:39 PM   #69
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This is a good read on Novakool from a forum in Austrailia. - Caravaners Forum • View topic - Nova Kool Fridge/ freezer Opinions wanted
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The door dimension is a problem, if you need to get a different model through the door... but there's always the back window!

Casita changed the back window years ago, because that's where they put the refrigerator into the trailer and also when it needs to be replaced.

Maybe that would work for you as well Robert?
The back window is about 17" tall...still a problem.
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